Birthright citizenship

[Pete F.]

I find it quite comical that Trump would propose to rule by executive order after decrying and demonizing Obama for doing the same, but it's not the first time.
And from the article I posted earlier in which Bill O'Reilly (noted liberal) was arguing with Trump that Congress could not write a bill, never mind Trump penning an executive order, the considered opinion is this.
Unless or until one of those bills were to pass — and the law were challenged in the Supreme Court — we can’t know for certain whether Trump is right. But it is a speculative idea, and certainly not one that has been settled legally.


Keep in mind that he already has Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, all he needs now is Judge Jeanine.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I find it quite comical that Trump would propose to rule by executive order after decrying and demonizing Obama for doing the same, but it's not the first time.
And from the article I posted earlier in which Bill O'Reilly (noted liberal) was arguing with Trump that Congress could not write a bill, never mind Trump penning an executive order, the considered opinion is this.
Unless or until one of those bills were to pass — and the law were challenged in the Supreme Court — we can’t know for certain whether Trump is right. But it is a speculative idea, and certainly not one that has been settled legally.


Keep in mind that he already has Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, all he needs now is Judge Jeanine.

gorsuch and kavanaugh are exactly like judge jenine, no more intellectually serious.
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[wdmso]

its comical to see the lovers of the constitution who will shout from the rooftops what part of shall not be infringed. dont you understand

need to take their own advice

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.


for over 150 years this is the standard supported by text history and judicial precedent.. has confirm this claus reaches most US born children of Aliens including illegal aliens

But the Guy in the you tube video knows best

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside . . . for over 150 years this is the standard supported by text history and judicial precedent.. has confirm this claus reaches most US born children of Aliens including illegal aliens

But the Guy in the you tube video knows best

The meaning of the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is in dispute and has not been determined by SCOTUS regarding illegal aliens. And the current notion of automatic birthright citizenship for aliens has not actually been the standard in the past 150 years. In the Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. 36 (1873)—a civil rights case not dealing specifically with birthright citizenship—a majority of the Supreme Court mentioned in passing that "the phrase 'subject to its jurisdiction' was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States".[51]

The guy in the video is detailing the opinions of "experts" who oppose the notion of automatic birthright citizenship given to children born here to illegal aliens.

If you could point out why specific items he presents in the video are wrong, that would be appreciated. But if you can only present opposing views and claim their validity lies in being more numerous, that is not proof that they are right. Truth is not up to a vote--except by vote of the Supreme arbiter which has not yet decided upon it.