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01-08-2019, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
I remember the outrage from GotStripers when this was supported by the Dems,don’t you? It was all they talked about.
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Oh my yes, everyone was telling Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders what loathsome racists they are.
Just like the outrage that occurred when immigrant children were separated from their parents by the Obama administration. They all compared Obama to Hitler, as I recall.
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01-08-2019, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Oh my yes, everyone was telling Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders what loathsome racists they are.
Just like the outrage that occurred when immigrant children were separated from their parents by the Obama administration. They all compared Obama to Hitler, as I recall.
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This falls in the category of keep repeating lies long enough and people will believe them.
Obama and Bush did not have a separation policy. The Trump administration didn’t, explicitly, either, but that was the effect of zero tolerance, which meant that anyone caught crossing the border illegally was to be criminally prosecuted, even if they had few or no previous offenses.
The policy meant adults were taken to court for criminal proceedings and their children were separated. In most cases, if the charge took longer than 72 hours to process, which is the longest time that children can be held by Customs and Border Protection, children were sent into the care of the Health and Human Services Department. Zero tolerance remains in effect, but Trump signed an executive order June 20 that stopped separations.
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01-08-2019, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
This falls in the category of keep repeating lies long enough and people will believe them.
Obama and Bush did not have a separation policy. The Trump administration didn’t, explicitly, either, but that was the effect of zero tolerance, which meant that anyone caught crossing the border illegally was to be criminally prosecuted, even if they had few or no previous offenses.
The policy meant adults were taken to court for criminal proceedings and their children were separated. In most cases, if the charge took longer than 72 hours to process, which is the longest time that children can be held by Customs and Border Protection, children were sent into the care of the Health and Human Services Department. Zero tolerance remains in effect, but Trump signed an executive order June 20 that stopped separations.
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The widely circulated photo of kids in cages, which was used as a weapon to attack Trump, was proven to have been taken during Obama's presidency.
Trump expanded on what Obama did. Obama separated kids from parents, that's not refutable.
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01-08-2019, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
The widely circulated photo of kids in cages, which was used as a weapon to attack Trump, was proven to have been taken during Obama's presidency.
Trump expanded on what Obama did. Obama separated kids from parents, that's not refutable.
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Yes that picture was taken prior to the Trump Administration, what made you bring that up?
I did not refute that some children were separated during prior administrations.
The difference is quite simple.
The separation of migrant children from adults is in fact due to the fact that Attorney General Jeff Sessions decided to prosecute first-offenses as felonies and not misdemeanors - as the Obama and Bush administrations had.
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