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01-08-2019, 09:15 AM
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Just leave that part out Jim because the Democrats have inexplicably changed their minds. I remember the outrage from GotStripers when this was supported by the Dems,don’t you? It was all they talked about.
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01-08-2019, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
I remember the outrage from GotStripers when this was supported by the Dems,don’t you? It was all they talked about.
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Oh my yes, everyone was telling Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders what loathsome racists they are.
Just like the outrage that occurred when immigrant children were separated from their parents by the Obama administration. They all compared Obama to Hitler, as I recall. |
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01-08-2019, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Oh my yes, everyone was telling Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders what loathsome racists they are.
Just like the outrage that occurred when immigrant children were separated from their parents by the Obama administration. They all compared Obama to Hitler, as I recall.
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This falls in the category of keep repeating lies long enough and people will believe them.
Obama and Bush did not have a separation policy. The Trump administration didn’t, explicitly, either, but that was the effect of zero tolerance, which meant that anyone caught crossing the border illegally was to be criminally prosecuted, even if they had few or no previous offenses.
The policy meant adults were taken to court for criminal proceedings and their children were separated. In most cases, if the charge took longer than 72 hours to process, which is the longest time that children can be held by Customs and Border Protection, children were sent into the care of the Health and Human Services Department. Zero tolerance remains in effect, but Trump signed an executive order June 20 that stopped separations. |
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01-08-2019, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
This falls in the category of keep repeating lies long enough and people will believe them.
Obama and Bush did not have a separation policy. The Trump administration didn’t, explicitly, either, but that was the effect of zero tolerance, which meant that anyone caught crossing the border illegally was to be criminally prosecuted, even if they had few or no previous offenses.
The policy meant adults were taken to court for criminal proceedings and their children were separated. In most cases, if the charge took longer than 72 hours to process, which is the longest time that children can be held by Customs and Border Protection, children were sent into the care of the Health and Human Services Department. Zero tolerance remains in effect, but Trump signed an executive order June 20 that stopped separations.
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The widely circulated photo of kids in cages, which was used as a weapon to attack Trump, was proven to have been taken during Obama's presidency.
Trump expanded on what Obama did. Obama separated kids from parents, that's not refutable. |
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01-08-2019, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
The widely circulated photo of kids in cages, which was used as a weapon to attack Trump, was proven to have been taken during Obama's presidency.
Trump expanded on what Obama did. Obama separated kids from parents, that's not refutable.
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Yes that picture was taken prior to the Trump Administration, what made you bring that up?
I did not refute that some children were separated during prior administrations.
The difference is quite simple.
The separation of migrant children from adults is in fact due to the fact that Attorney General Jeff Sessions decided to prosecute first-offenses as felonies and not misdemeanors - as the Obama and Bush administrations had. |
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01-08-2019, 09:40 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Just leave that part out Jim because the Democrats have inexplicably changed their minds. I remember the outrage from GotStripers when this was supported by the Dems,don’t you? It was all they talked about.
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You must have me confused with someone else, I’ve not been a part of this board that long, the BS I saw starting during the 2016 campaign prompted me to join in the debate.
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01-08-2019, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
You must have me confused with someone else, I’ve not been a part of this board that long, the BS I saw starting during the 2016 campaign prompted me to join in the debate.
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Join date...Oct.2000
Wrong guy?
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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01-08-2019, 10:15 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Join date...Oct.2000
Wrong guy?
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Joined yes, but I've have almost zero participation on this political board until Trump ran in 2016. |
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01-08-2019, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Joined yes, but I've have almost zero participation on this political board until Trump ran in 2016.
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Same here but I am honest about it.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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01-08-2019, 10:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Just leave that part out Jim because the Democrats have inexplicably changed their minds. I remember the outrage from GotStripers when this was supported by the Dems,don’t you? It was all they talked about.
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You literally just proved his point, didn’t bother you before.......but Trump
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Joined yes, but I've have almost zero participation on this political board until Trump ran in 2016.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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01-08-2019, 10:49 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
You literally just proved his point, didn’t bother you before.......but Trump
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It's called retirement, previously I had zero time to participate on this board, I was to busy working my butt off to hopefully get to a point I could retire. You proved nothing, other than now I have time to join in the debate, although I swear at times, it resembles nothing more than mud slinging by both sides and endless personal attacks. |
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01-08-2019, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
You literally just proved his point, didn’t bother you before.......but Trump
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Perhaps it is the constant lying from Trump which never occurred before. Or the constant chaos in the Oval office with members of his own team saying derogatory things about Trump. Or the hypocrisy of the right which would have been screaming holy hell at some of the things that are being done if prior administrations had done them (declare a national emergency to build the wall - imagine if Obama said we have a national health emergency re ACA).
But Got Stripers can certainly respond for himself. |
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01-08-2019, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Perhaps it is the constant lying from Trump which never occurred before. Or the constant chaos in the Oval office with members of his own team saying derogatory things about Trump. Or the hypocrisy of the right which would have been screaming holy hell at some of the things that are being done if prior administrations had done them (declare a national emergency to build the wall - imagine if Obama said we have a national health emergency re ACA).
But Got Stripers can certainly respond for himself.
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Suck it.
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01-08-2019, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Suck it.
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Another thoughtful response. I don't really expect more from you. |
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01-08-2019, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Another thoughtful response. I don't really expect more from you.
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He's giving you all he's got. |
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