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Old 01-11-2019, 01:48 PM   #1
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A paragraph from Jonah Goldberg's book Suicide of the West: How the Rebirth of Tribalism, Populism, Nationalism, and Identity Politics is Destroying American Democracy
“I believe that, conceptually, we have reached the end of history. We are at the summit, and at this altitude [political] left and right lose most of their meaning. Because when you are at the top of the mountain, any direction you turn — be it left toward socialism or right toward nationalism … the result is the same: You must go down, back whence you came.”
Jonah Goldberg the con.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:11 PM   #2
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Jonah Goldberg the con.
Odd, I would have thought you would be bowing at his feet after his other book:Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change and The Tyranny of Clichés: How Liberals Cheat in the War of Ideas

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Old 01-11-2019, 02:13 PM   #3
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Odd, I would have thought you would be bowing at his feet after his other book:Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change and The Tyranny of Clichés: How Liberals Cheat in the War of Ideas
You don’t get it, everything is a con, nothing is real. Now while you’re confused I’m robbing your house.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:35 PM   #4
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Odd, I would have thought you would be bowing at his feet after his other book:Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change and The Tyranny of Clichés: How Liberals Cheat in the War of Ideas
I've grown to like throwing the word "con" around after seeing how it is being done on this forum. It's kinda fun. And eliminates the need for lengthy rational deliberation. Jonah Goldberg can be a con artist at times. Just like you.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:27 PM   #5
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Jonah Goldberg the con.
I see why you don't like him, he's written what I have been saying
He's not one of The People of Wall-mart:

"When looking at what advances this administration’s agenda or is good for the Republican Party, however, “his base loves it” doesn’t score any points.

Worse, it’s self-fulfilling prophecy. As he sheds the mostly suburban voters who gave him his margin of victory in 2016, of course he clings more tightly to those who celebrate the behaviors that are bleeding the GOP of support. They’re the only ones left. Proclaiming that “his base loves it” may be an explanation, but it’s no excuse. And it misses the point if you care about the GOP’s long-term viability or even Trump’s re-election prospects. He’s going to need more voters than his amen chorus.

Last month’s midterms showed what a national election looks like when only Trump enablers feel highly motivated to vote Republican. The GOP lost Orange County, Calif., the ancestral home of the conservative movement. New England now has more GOP governors than Republican members of Congress. In Iowa, the GOP lost all of its House races save for uber-Trumpy Steve King’s. A party in which only bigoted goons like King can thrive by fueling white resentment is destined for the dustbin of history.

The irony here is that Trump’s base will forgive him for nearly anything. He easily could have used the wall as leverage to gain Democratic support for mandating that all employers use E-Verify to confirm a prospective employee has legal immigration status. This is what serious immigration hawks have implored him to do — and he’d get credit for being the great deal-maker he claims to be.

But the larger irony is that his base-service has led him to this very predicament: shutdown or back down.

Most presidents try to expand their coalition while holding onto their base. Trump has shrunk his coalition and laid the foundation for future shrinkage by forcing his party to endorse this behavior. Trump will be gone soon enough, but at this rate the party of Trump will be a rump party."

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