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01-31-2019, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
When did you think America wasn't great.
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Paul, I am not hating on the country and never have. I will not threaten to leave or stomp my feet regardless of who is in power. I do see room for improvement however. This message is almost identical to the famous Michelle O’bama quote that liberals defended endlessly. Now that it is associated with a Republican,the liberals turn it into a message of hate and oppression.
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01-31-2019, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Paul, I am not hating on the country and never have. I will not threaten to leave or stomp my feet regardless of who is in power. I do see room for improvement however. This message is almost identical to the famous Michelle O’bama quote that conservative media attacked mercilessly. Now that it is associated with a Republican,the liberals turn it into a message of hate and oppression.
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01-31-2019, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Paul, I am not hating on the country and never have. I will not threaten to leave or stomp my feet regardless of who is in power. I do see room for improvement however. This message is almost identical to the famous Michelle O’bama quote that liberals defended endlessly. Now that it is associated with a Republican,the liberals turn it into a message of hate and oppression.
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No it isn't.
She clarified what she said. You said that "I just happen to think making America great again is a good thing" along with the attempted backhanded slap.
So, when did you think America wasn't great bc your statement clearly says America is/wasn't great at some point.
If you think like Jim said that we should alwayst try to be better, that is a different statement.
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01-31-2019, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
No it isn't.
She clarified what she said. You said that "I just happen to think making America great again is a good thing" along with the attempted backhanded slap.
So, when did you think America wasn't great bc your statement clearly says America is/wasn't great at some point.
If you think like Jim said that we should alwayst try to be better, that is a different statement.
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who cares if she clarified her statement, after she caught heat for saying it.
and if your issue with trumps slogan is the word “again”, how about obama’s slogan if hope
and change? doesn’t that imply that things are currently pretty damn bad? but it’s ok when obama says that currently, america stinks. and he cane up with that slogan way before the market crash, so it wasn’t that .
there’s the double standard.
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01-31-2019, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
who cares if she clarified her statement, after she caught heat for saying it. Bc usually in this country we give people the benefit of the doubt if they apologize for a mistake or a misstament. And we don't constantly bring those things up again and again (or most of us don't)
and if your issue with trumps slogan is the word “again”, how about obama’s slogan if hope
and change? doesn’t that imply that things are currently pretty damn bad? No, I don't think it does. Isn't that part of trying to do better - hope to make things better and if there is a way to do something better, than make that change. Totally different from implying that America is no longer great and and we need to make it great again. but it’s ok when obama says that currently, america stinks. and he cane up with that slogan way before the market crash, so it wasn’t that .
there’s the double standard.
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No double standard. It just that some people are ignoring what some people are implying what MAGA (and build the wall) mean.
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01-31-2019, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
No double standard. It just that some people are ignoring what some people are implying what MAGA (and build the wall) mean.
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how many beers is that for you today already?
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01-31-2019, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
how many beers is that for you today already?
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You've been talking about beers a lot lately but I don't see you offering any up.
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01-31-2019, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
You've been talking about beers a lot lately but I don't see you offering any up.
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I'd drink with you anytime....maybe when it gets a bit warmer and the fish come back
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01-31-2019, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
No it isn't.
She clarified what she said. You said that "I just happen to think making America great again is a good thing" along with the attempted backhanded slap.
So, when did you think America wasn't great bc your statement clearly says America is/wasn't great at some point.
If you think like Jim said that we should alwayst try to be better, that is a different statement.
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I think there are a lot of ways to make improvements Paul,such as veterans services and health care etc. But personally,I feel the country struggled during the previous administration. There were instances where I thought feelings were put before national security and the world lost a lot of respect for the United States as a global superpower. Thanks for asking.
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01-31-2019, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
I think there are a lot of ways to make improvements Paul,such as veterans services and health care etc. But personally,I feel the country struggled during the previous administration. There were instances where I thought feelings were put before national security and the world lost a lot of respect for the United States as a global superpower. Thanks for asking.
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Obama's leadership ratings didn't fare well in Russia and Israel but the rest of the planet gave him favorable or very high marks. These evaporated under Trump to be even lower than 43.
I guess one way to think about national security is if the rest of the world hates you.
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01-31-2019, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Obama's leadership ratings didn't fare well in Russia and Israel but the rest of the planet gave him favorable or very high marks. These evaporated under Trump to be even lower than 43.
I guess one way to think about national security is if the rest of the world hates you.
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Jeff, you are always going to have differences with neighbors but the idea is not to start trouble. Trying to prevent such an occurrence and the ability to handle such is also incumbent on the office. A healthy respect is more valuable than a smile and a bow in some instances. There are plenty of folks out there that you may not wish to have a beer with. There are also plenty you may not tempt by F’ing with them. Of course the rest of the world liked O’bama,he blew them all kisses and gave them money for ice cream.
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01-31-2019, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Jeff, you are always going to have differences with neighbors but the idea is not to start trouble. Trying to prevent such an occurrence and the ability to handle such is also incumbent on the office. A healthy respect is more valuable than a smile and a bow in some instances. There are plenty of folks out there that you may not wish to have a beer with. There are also plenty you may not tempt by F’ing with them. Of course the rest of the world liked O’bama,he blew them all kisses and gave them money for ice cream.
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It’s like you can be the douchebag neighbor or the cool neighbor.
I know who’s getting invited to all the cookouts...
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