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04-22-2020, 09:51 AM
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You're quotes by Trump are selected out of broader contexts. And many were off the cuff remarks that reflected the general consensus being narrated by WHO, the Dems, the MSM, as well. Pasting them all together as a timeline without also inserting them within "the big picture" is obviously meant to slant against Trump.
And some points are misleading such as saying the travel ban was not a travel ban. It absolutely was a ban, as it stated, on foreign nationals, and the Americans that were still "traveling" were basically those who were returning from China.
Several bullet points were actually failures of the federal administrative agencies to be appropriately stocked before Trump was elected, as well and even more telling, failures of State and local agencies to have maintained supplies and readiness,exemplified by New York where a great percentage of the outbreak has occurred. And the testing delays were directly attributable the failure of the CDC to create test kits when it tried to invent a better test than was already being used by other countries and WHO, and the created kits were faulty so were returned after sparse use until the CDC finally, sort of, got it right. The delays in kits, and supplies was a failure of the whole entrenched bureaucracy at all levels of government. Trump had to lead the effort to correct that failure, which pretty much has happened.
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04-22-2020, 01:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
You're quotes by Trump are selected out of broader contexts. And many were off the cuff remarks that reflected the general consensus being narrated by WHO, the Dems, the MSM, as well. Pasting them all together as a timeline without also inserting them within "the big picture" is obviously meant to slant against Trump.
Do you need a book?
They are not "out of context".
The quotes certainly show the tone of Trump*s statements regarding Covid-19 during that time period.
The invalid Trumplican excuse of "off the cuff" is very weak and does not excuse his speech anymore than it did any previous occupant of the Oval Office.
You could point out quotes or statements of his from that time that contradict them.
And some points are misleading such as saying the travel ban was not a travel ban. It absolutely was a ban, as it stated, on foreign nationals, and the Americans that were still "traveling" were basically those who were returning from China.
Unfortunately, Trump* thought just as he did in 2014 that all you had to do was stop flights and everything would be OK
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Oct 7, 2014
Despite the ever increasing Ebola disaster, Obama refuses to stop flights from West Africa.It's almost like he's saying F-you to U.S. public
Flights were never stopped from West Africa in 2014 but Ebola did not come here or spread thru the world, did it?
30 thousand people returned from China in the month before he stopped foreigners from coming to the US from China, thousand of citizens and legal residents came in the month after and the traffic only stopped because the airlines stopped servicing the routes.
Several bullet points were actually failures of the federal administrative agencies to be appropriately stocked before Trump was elected, (How many years have to go by before the current president is responsible? Does this work for leaders of organizations outside of government also? How many CEO's get away with that?) as well and even more telling, failures of State and local agencies to have maintained supplies and readiness,exemplified by New York where a great percentage of the outbreak has occurred. Should they maintain standing armies also and the needed armament to prepare for being invaded? Just who is the National Stockpile for anyways, maybe you could explain that. And the testing delays were directly attributable the failure of the CDC to create test kits when it tried to invent a better test than was already being used by other countries and WHO, and the created kits were faulty so were returned after sparse use until the CDC finally, sort of, got it right. The delays in kits, and supplies was a failure of the whole entrenched bureaucracy at all levels of government. Trump had to lead the effort to correct that failure, which pretty much has happened.
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Trump*failed to lead the CDC's effort by any measure. Leading the Executive branch responsible for managing the day to day operations of the Federal Government is his job. He volunteered for it, campaigned for it, accepted it and took the oath. He hasn't done it.
He has lead his blaming brigade every minute he has been on the air for weeks, in blaming and shuffling off responsibility anywhere possible.
I have noticed that Fox News and the president no longer love the hydroxychloroquine. Perhaps the president and his propaganda arm should stop handing out medical advice?
The longer we pretend that Trump* isn’t mentally ill, the more devastation we’re going to experience.
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