What the Epoch Times forgets to mention

[Jim in CT]

Given all that info that we had back in January, can we agree that one thing Trump did, was restrict travel from China? And Joe Biden came out against that, said it was an overreaction, so he wouldn't have even done that.

Good thing Biden wasn't in charge. Right? Otherwise, this is just an exercise in bashing Trump, not an exercise that cares at all about truth.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Given all that info that we had back in January, can we agree that one thing Trump did, was restrict travel from China? And Joe Biden came out against that, said it was an overreaction, so he wouldn't have even done that.

Good thing Biden wasn't in charge. Right? Otherwise, this is just an exercise in bashing Trump, not an exercise that cares at all about truth.

I think you managed to get everything wrong.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I think you managed to get everything wrong.
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I think you are too small-minded to be able to comment rationally on anything that doesn't make Trump look bad. I go where the facts take me. You live in a conservative=bad tunnel, no exceptions, not ever.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Given all that info that we had back in January, can we agree that one thing Trump did, was restrict travel from China? And Joe Biden came out against that, said it was an overreaction, so he wouldn't have even done that.

Good thing Biden wasn't in charge. Right? Otherwise, this is just an exercise in bashing Trump, not an exercise that cares at all about truth.

Truth is what you claim?

Trump*s travel ban was on what date?
Azar declared a public health emergency for the novel coronavirus on Jan. 31, and announced the travel restrictions to and from China, effective Feb. 2.
Isn't that correct?
Biden wrote an Op-ed in USA today on January 27th and espoused the same talking points again at a political event within hours of Azar's announcement.

"The possibility of a pandemic is a challenge Donald Trump is unqualified to handle as president. I remember how Trump sought to stoke fear and stigma during the 2014 Ebola epidemic. He called President Barack Obama a “dope” and “incompetent” and railed against the evidence-based response our administration put in place — which quelled the crisis and saved hundreds of thousands of lives — in favor of reactionary travel bans that would only have made things worse. He advocated abandoning exposed and infected American citizens rather than bringing them home for treatment.

Trump’s demonstrated failures of judgment and his repeated rejection of science make him the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health challenge.

The outbreak of a new coronavirus, which has already infected more than 2,700 people and killed over 80 in China, will get worse before it gets better. Cases have been confirmed in a dozen countries, with at least five in the United States. There will likely be more.

Diseases don't stop at borders or walls
The State Department has scheduled an evacuation flight and advised Americans against traveling to Hubei province, the epicenter of the outbreak, and is evacuating non-essential personnel.

Trump has blithely tweeted that “it will all work out well.” Yet the steps he has taken as president have only weakened our capacity to respond.

Trump has rolled back much of the progress President Obama and I made to strengthen global health security. He proposed draconian cuts to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Agency for International Development — the very agencies we need to fight this outbreak and prevent future ones.

He dismissed the top White House official in charge of global health security and dismantled the entire team. And he has treated with utmost contempt institutions that facilitate international cooperation, thus undermining the global efforts that keep us safe from pandemics and biological attacks.

To be blunt, I am concerned that the Trump administration’s shortsighted policies have left us unprepared for a dangerous epidemic that will come sooner or later.

Pandemic diseases are a prime example of why international cooperation is a requirement of leadership in 2020. Diseases do not stop at borders. They cannot be thwarted by building a wall. We cannot keep ourselves safe without helping to keep others safe as well and without enlisting the help of other nations in return. And here’s the truth — the United States must step forward to lead these efforts, because no other nation has the resources, the reach or the relationships to marshal an effective international response."

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Truth is what you claim?

Trump*s travel ban was on what date?
Azar declared a public health emergency for the novel coronavirus on Jan. 31, and announced the travel restrictions to and from China, effective Feb. 2.
Isn't that correct?
Biden wrote an Op-ed in USA today on January 27th and espoused the same talking points again at a political event within hours of Azar's announcement.

"The possibility of a pandemic is a challenge Donald Trump is unqualified to handle as president. I remember how Trump sought to stoke fear and stigma during the 2014 Ebola epidemic. He called President Barack Obama a “dope” and “incompetent” and railed against the evidence-based response our administration put in place — which quelled the crisis and saved hundreds of thousands of lives — in favor of reactionary travel bans that would only have made things worse. He advocated abandoning exposed and infected American citizens rather than bringing them home for treatment.

Trump’s demonstrated failures of judgment and his repeated rejection of science make him the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health challenge.

The outbreak of a new coronavirus, which has already infected more than 2,700 people and killed over 80 in China, will get worse before it gets better. Cases have been confirmed in a dozen countries, with at least five in the United States. There will likely be more.

Diseases don't stop at borders or walls
The State Department has scheduled an evacuation flight and advised Americans against traveling to Hubei province, the epicenter of the outbreak, and is evacuating non-essential personnel.

Trump has blithely tweeted that “it will all work out well.” Yet the steps he has taken as president have only weakened our capacity to respond.

Trump has rolled back much of the progress President Obama and I made to strengthen global health security. He proposed draconian cuts to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Agency for International Development — the very agencies we need to fight this outbreak and prevent future ones.

He dismissed the top White House official in charge of global health security and dismantled the entire team. And he has treated with utmost contempt institutions that facilitate international cooperation, thus undermining the global efforts that keep us safe from pandemics and biological attacks.

To be blunt, I am concerned that the Trump administration’s shortsighted policies have left us unprepared for a dangerous epidemic that will come sooner or later.

Pandemic diseases are a prime example of why international cooperation is a requirement of leadership in 2020. Diseases do not stop at borders. They cannot be thwarted by building a wall. We cannot keep ourselves safe without helping to keep others safe as well and without enlisting the help of other nations in return. And here’s the truth — the United States must step forward to lead these efforts, because no other nation has the resources, the reach or the relationships to marshal an effective international response."

"Truth is what you claim?"

Here's what I claimed:

One, Trump restricted travel from China, I believe in late January.

Two, Biden claimed that was an over-reaction and racist (therefore, safe to say Biden wouldn't have done it).

Three, Trump haters are saying he didn't do enough. If Trump didn't do enough, and Biden (at the time) wouldn't have done what Trump did, that mean Biden would have done less.

If Trump ordered schools and businesses locked down in January, the left would have said he was a berserk dictator. There was zero consensus in January that we weren't doing nearly enough. Hindsight is always 20-20.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Given all that info that we had back in January, can we agree that one thing Trump did, was restrict travel from China? And Joe Biden came out against that, said it was an overreaction, so he wouldn't have even done that.

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Doing that was so minor it was like praising Hussain for making a US squad briefly withdraw during the Iraqi war.

There are so many things he ignored and lied about since that the totality paints a damning picture of someone so unprepared for the job (which is what everyone has been saying since the election).

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Doing that was so minor it was like praising Hussain for making a US squad briefly withdraw during the Iraqi war.

There are so many things he ignored and lied about since that the totality paints a damning picture of someone so unprepared for the job (which is what everyone has been saying since the election).

We have absolutely no way of estimating the impact of what he did. None. SO you'll believe estimates that make Trump look bad, Sean Hannity will believe estimates that say that saved 200 million lives. I have no idea. What I know, is that at the time, people said it was an overreaction. At the time, (later, in fact, at the end of February) Nancy Pelosi and Bill Diblasio were encouraging their constituents to go out to crowded public places. No one here will comment on that, other than to say I made it all up, even though I provided videos. Because this forum isn't about truth. It's about attacking Trump.