even the right has its own cancel culture

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Not that hard to imagine. A bit over the top and unlikely that China and NK created the coronavirus together. And not likely that our anti-Trumpers are conspiring with China and NK.

But it's not hard to imagine that China was, at the least, unconcerned about letting the virus spread before it told us it existed as the monster it is. And it is not hard to imagine that China, NK, and anti-Trumpers want to harm Trump, and are doing it in various ways. Take, for example, PeteF. He's doing his darnedest to harm Trump.

None of it's hard to imagine when the right loves conspiracy theories and when conventional information like Truth and facts fail to support their arguments they jump effortlessly to lies half truths and alternative facts and keep pounding a square peg in a round hole , and you and others get upset when Pete and others point it out ..

Petes not harming Trump. Trumps harming Trump. But the faithful are slow to acknowledge they've been played

[RickBomba]

Originally Posted by wdmso

None of it's hard to imagine when the right loves conspiracy theories and when conventional information like Truth and facts fail to support their arguments they jump effortlessly to lies half truths and alternative facts and keep pounding a square peg in a round hole , and you and others get upset when Pete and others point it out ..

Petes not harming Trump. Trumps harming Trump. But the faithful are slow to acknowledge they've been played

You know how the song goes, Wayno.

If you’re gonna be dumb,
You better be tough.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

None of it's hard to imagine when the right loves conspiracy theories and when conventional information like Truth and facts fail to support their arguments they jump effortlessly to lies half truths and alternative facts and keep pounding a square peg in a round hole , and you and others get upset when Pete and others point it out ..

Petes not harming Trump. Trumps harming Trump. But the faithful are slow to acknowledge they've been played

The Truth and facts supported their (the "right") arguments re the collusion affair. And more truth and facts keep coming out to buttress those arguments. It turns out that the real phony conspiracy theory was that Trump conspired with the Russians to win his election.

Pete and others are the ones who provided alternative facts that have been disproved (debunked, to use a word you like). And you and they get upset when I and others point that out.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

The Truth and facts supported their (the "right") arguments re the collusion affair. And more truth and facts keep coming out to buttress those arguments. It turns out that the real phony conspiracy theory was that Trump conspired with the Russians to win his election.

Pete and others are the ones who provided alternative facts that have been disproved (debunked, to use a word you like). And you and they get upset when I and others point that out.

I know... no one spoke to the Russians no one lied about talking to the Russians
Trump never asked for Russian help .. none of it happened like I said alternative facts

Ps it was an investigation Trump and his campaign conspired with the Russians to win the elections. Investigation are what happens and none was found. Yet you'll ingnore obstructed justice part of it .

Cant wait for your take on his latest executive orders

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I know... no one spoke to the Russians

Lots of people spoke to the Russians. It's OK to talk to the Russians. It was Flynn's job to talk to the Russians. His conversations with the Russians were not illegal or treasonous.


no one lied about talking to the Russians

The FBI didn't think he lied. Flynn didn't think he lied. He was not charged nor convicted of treason. His conversation with the Russians were deemed by the FBI to be perfectly legitimate. He confessed to lying under duress. He has changed his plea now that the duress has been removed and he is free to tell the truth. In any case, his coerced confession was immaterial to the actual case against him since he had done nothing wrong and his coerced "lie" didn't affect the fact that he did nothing wrong, nor was it connected to any wrong doing, nor did it cover up any malfeasance. His "lie" was totally immaterial and irrelevant to the nature of the investigation and interrogation of him. The lie was total, unimportant, concocted and coerced BS.

Trump never asked for Russian help ..

He never asked the Russians to interfere with the elections.

none of it happened

Well, yeah, the whole phony, contrived, attempt to get rid of Trump happened.

like I said alternative facts

Yeah, alternative facts that Trump conspired with Russia to affect the election.

Ps it was an investigation Trump and his campaign conspired with the Russians to win the elections.

Yeah, that's your alternative fact.

Investigation are what happens and none was found.

Because there was nothing to be found, other than that there was not sufficient evidence to support the conspiracy that Trump conspired with Russia to affect the election.

Yet you'll ingnore obstructed justice part of it .

I did not ignore that there was not sufficient evidence to prove the conspiracy that Trump obstructed justice.

Cant wait for your take on his latest executive orders

Sure you can.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Sure you can.

When you are you going to comment on Jerry Jr rather than hijacking it with but but russia. Did you have an issue with. The bengiza investigation? And how many indictments where given . Oh wait none

34 people he indicted along the way in the Russians investigation such a stand up bunch of people working for this law and order or pardon my friends President

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

When you are you going to comment on Jerry Jr rather than hijacking it with but but russia. Did you have an issue with. The bengiza investigation? And how many indictments where given . Oh wait none

34 people he indicted along the way in the Russians investigation such a stand up bunch of people working for this law and order or pardon my friends President

See post #8

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

The FBI didn't think he lied. Flynn didn't think he lied. He was not charged nor convicted of treason. His conversation with the Russians were deemed by the FBI to be perfectly legitimate. He confessed to lying under duress. He has changed his plea now that the duress has been removed and he is free to tell the truth. In any case, his coerced confession was immaterial to the actual case against him since he had done nothing wrong and his coerced "lie" didn't affect the fact that he did nothing wrong, nor was it connected to any wrong doing, nor did it cover up any malfeasance. His "lie" was totally immaterial and irrelevant to the nature of the investigation and interrogation of him. The lie was total, unimportant, concocted and coerced BS.

Pretty much all of this is untrue.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Pretty much all of this is untrue.
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Pretty much all of it is true.

[RickBomba]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Pretty much all of it is true.

So, if it’s true, why did Flynn himself admit he was guilty in his plea?

My old man used to say “An innocent man has nothing to hide, and doesn’t stop fighting for his integrity.”
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