even the right has its own cancel culture

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by RickBomba

So, if it’s true, why did Flynn himself admit he was guilty in his plea?

See post #8.

My old man used to say “An innocent man has nothing to hide, and doesn’t stop fighting for his integrity.”
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That's true, and Flynn is still fighting.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

That's true, and Flynn is still fighting.

Flynn wasn't under duress, he got caught trying to undermine US policy. He's lucky the plea agreement was as generous as it was. He may be wishing he kept it.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Flynn wasn't under duress,

he was

he got caught trying to undermine US policy. He's lucky the plea agreement was as generous as it was. He may be wishing he kept it.

He was not undermining, he was trying to keep Russia from retaliating over aggressively, but instead to make its response "reciprocal" so that we would not be forced to escalate beyond the present expulsions. Also, it is contended that Flynn lied about discussing the financial sanctions levied by Obama against the Russians. But Flynn did not discuss that with Kislyak, his request to keep the Russian response "reciprocal" was in regard to the expulsion of Russian diplomats. Even President Obama noted that sanctions and expulsions were entirely separate issues. Which is why he didn't believe he actually lied, because the discussion was not about the sanctions. "The transcripts show that while Kislyak obliquely raised the issue of financial sanctions against certain Russian intelligence officials, Flynn himself never discussed the financial sanctions against Russian individuals and entities levied by the Obama administration. Instead, Flynn focused on preventing U.S. “tit-for-tat” escalation following the Obama administration’s expulsion of Russian diplomats."

While Flynn initially pleaded guilty to the charges after Mueller’s office threatened to persecute his son, he moved to withdraw his plea in federal court following the emergence of evidence that the FBI’s ambush interview of him without counsel present was an unlawful setup with no legal investigative predicate and that Mueller’s office improperly withheld exculpatory information from him.

The main thing to understand is that prior to being investigated he did nothing for which there was a valid reason to investigate. That's why he was not charged with anything more than the coerced "lie." What he did before that "lie" was perfectly legal. There was no valid reason to investigate him in the first place. And when the FBI determined that and wanted to close the investigation, it was continued under no valid reason until Flynn could be coerced into "lying."

[Pete F.]

Four years after Russia interfered in the election to help Trump, US intel says it is doing the same again. Trump does not warn Russia away & continues to dismiss the threat. In any other time, this would spark bipartisan outrage. US appears no safer today than 2016

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Four years after Russia interfered in the election to help Trump, US intel says it is doing the same again. Trump does not warn Russia away & continues to dismiss the threat. In any other time, this would spark bipartisan outrage. US appears no safer today than 2016

Intel says China favors Biden. China has every bit and more capability to interfere in our elections as Russia has.

So were not safe from Russia today. Russia, not China, is the great threat?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Intel says China favors Biden. China has every bit and more capability to interfere in our elections as Russia has.

So were not safe from Russia today. Russia, not China, is the great threat?

but "Intel" says China hasn't been actively interfering w/our elections like Russia has.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

The main thing to understand is that prior to being investigated he did nothing for which there was a valid reason to investigate. That's why he was not charged with anything more than the coerced "lie." What he did before that "lie" was perfectly legal. There was no valid reason to investigate him in the first place. And when the FBI determined that and wanted to close the investigation, it was continued under no valid reason until Flynn could be coerced into "lying."

This is such utter horse hockey. Flynn was under an active investigation because of his contacts with Russians which the IG said was justified. The interview was predicated on his meddling in US policy and his cover up which could compromise him as the Russians could prove he was lying.

Funny, The Obama administration is shaking their heads at the lack of a Russian response to sanctions and dismissals, the reality is Flynn's intervening and this is no reason for the FBI to see what the hell is going on???

This would require the complete suspension of logic to believe, or just a corrupt attorney general.