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spence · 10-21-2021, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

And we can only wonder why you excluded October? Could it be because Floridas numbers are getting better, now that the weather has cooled and people can spend time outside again?

Because that's what the article I read showed, sure October is getting a lot better in FL because it's getting better in nearly if not every state. FL had a very bad summer so the drop looks more dramatic. Taking a small data point and trying to make a political assumption off of it doesn't make a lot of sense.

scottw · 10-21-2021, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

because it's getting better in nearly if not every state.

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not in Vermont the most vaccinated state in the country.... yesterday- Despite nation's highest vaccination rate, Vermont COVID-19 cases remain high, a surprise given Vermont's position as the nation's most-vaccinated state. SURPRISE!!

and it was only September ago when Florida was being hammered as being irresponsible regarding masking and all of florida was predicted to die as a result....

wdmso · 10-21-2021, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw

not in Vermont the most vaccinated state in the country.... yesterday- Despite nation's highest vaccination rate, Vermont COVID-19 cases remain high, a surprise given Vermont's position as the nation's most-vaccinated state. SURPRISE!!

and it was only September ago when Florida was being hammered as being irresponsible regarding masking and all of florida was predicted to die as a result....

are the vaccinated people the ones responsible for the spike ? or is the unvaccinated ..

VT Health reports 202 new COVID-19 cases Oh the horror

and MA reports Mass. reports 1,888 new COVID-19 cases

and Fla 2500 new daily cases

Scott comparing things as equal where have we seen that

scottw · 10-21-2021, 12:07 PM

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are the vaccinated people the ones responsible for the spike ? or is the unvaccinated ..

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we know it's 100% the fault of the unvaccinated...

scottw · 10-21-2021, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso

Scott comparing things as equal where have we seen that

I didn't(compare things a equal)...I can't decipher the rest of that.....

Jim in CT · 10-21-2021, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw

I didn't(compare things a equal)...I can't decipher the rest of that.....

Sometimes I think Clammer is posting as WDMSO.

Let's recap...

Trump's gesture to lend his jet to fly a sick child across the country (who the airlines refused to fly) isn't worth mentioning because the kid died, and/or because the kids father may have been involved in shady deals.

Only 19 GOP senators voted for the infastructure bill, which hasn't been voted on yet.

Florida has more covid cases than northern maine, therefore Desantis is a mass murderer.

I can feel precious IQ points being sucked out of my brain, gotta go.

Jim in CT · 10-21-2021, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso

are the vaccinated people the ones responsible for the spike ? or is the unvaccinated ..

VT Health reports 202 new COVID-19 cases Oh the horror

and MA reports Mass. reports 1,888 new COVID-19 cases

and Fla 2500 new daily cases

Scott comparing things as equal where have we seen that

You're comparing number of cases, not rates per 100,000?

Yeah that makes sense.

Good lord man.

wdmso · 10-21-2021, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You're comparing number of cases, not rates per 100,000?

Yeah that makes sense.

Good lord man.

As if scott or you were making your case based on case rates per 100,000 I guess I missed where either of you said anything close

Jim in CT · 10-21-2021, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso

As if scott or you were making your case based on case rates per 100,000 I guess I missed where either of you said anything close

because it never occurred to us you’d be looking at absolute counts, not rates. counts are meaningless, because they’re biased against small states.
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Jim in CT · 10-21-2021, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso

are the vaccinated people the ones responsible for the spike ? or is the unvaccinated ..

You'd have to assume the unvaccinated, but there are breakouts at colleges that have close to a 100% vaccination rate. How do you explain that? Unless the vaccine isn't quite as effective as we were told.

wdmso · 10-21-2021, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You'd have to assume the unvaccinated, but there are breakouts at colleges that have close to a 100% vaccination rate. How do you explain that? Unless the vaccine isn't quite as effective as we were told.

What were told our what you decided you heard

Jim in CT · 10-21-2021, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso

What were told our what you decided you heard

Ok, since you laughed at my presumption that the vaccine isn't that effective, please tell me how you can have big outbreaks on college campuses among students who are 100% vaccinated. If my guess was laughable, surely you must have a more plausible explanation?

If you have a student body that's 100% vaccinated, how do you get a big outbreak? That's happened a few times, Connecticut College and Duke that I know of.

Pete F. · 10-21-2021, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw

not in Vermont the most vaccinated state in the country.... yesterday- Despite nation's highest vaccination rate, Vermont COVID-19 cases remain high, a surprise given Vermont's position as the nation's most-vaccinated state. SURPRISE!!

and it was only September ago when Florida was being hammered as being irresponsible regarding masking and all of florida was predicted to die as a result....

In Vermont, Orleans and Essex counties lead the state by far in cases and lag in vaccinations.
They are also the counties that guess who won or did best in.

That being said, the Delta variant seems to run thru the population quickly. Luckily for the vaccinated it rarely requires hospitalization, but not for those who are not vaccinated.

We will see what the next variant brings, the larger the infected pool the greater the chance of variants developing.
Covid is perfectly willing to play the game and the bigger the field, the better it does.

scottw · 10-21-2021, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F.

In Vermont

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yawn.....

Jim in CT · 10-21-2021, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

Taking a small data point and trying to make a political assumption off of it doesn't make a lot of sense.

Sort of like taking July-September, when it's been 18 months we've been dealing with this. You cherry picked a specific 3 month window to make FL look bad, and you did it for political reasons, and you got caught.

People are moving to FL in huge numbers. They aren't doing so because they want to die from covid.

Jim in CT · 10-21-2021, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

October is getting a lot better in FL because it's getting better in nearly if not every state. .

From yahoo that Scott posted:

On a per capita basis over the past seven days, Florida has had fewer cases than every state in the contiguous United States, with the exception of California.

Not every state is seeing the improvement FL is seeing. It's not just a function of Florida having nowhere to go but down.

If what you said isn't pure bullsh*t, why isn't "nearly every state" doing as well as CA and FL?

wdmso · 10-21-2021, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

From yahoo that Scott posted:

On a per capita basis over the past seven days, Florida has had fewer cases than every state in the contiguous United States, with the exception of California.

Not every state is seeing the improvement FL is seeing. It's not just a function of Florida having nowhere to go but down.

If what you said isn't pure bullsh*t, why isn't "nearly every state" doing as well as CA and FL?

you left this part out After Record High Surge

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-cov...-surge-1639985