Patriots Roll Into Cleveland..

[kippy]

wow..what is it going to take for this Pats team to get respect? 3 superbowls in 4 years should do it..

[BigFish]

Geeez....I hope they get that "lucky"!

[afterhours]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BigFish
......but you guys keep giving us the "football is not the game it used to be" crap! If the Raiders were winning........it would be tantamount to the "rebirth" of the game the way it used to be! ]

no respect i tell ya.

[Vectorfisher]

BF I will make my statement again the best team in the NFL beat the other two best teams in the NFL and that would be the Steelers You have nothing to say until proven otherwise, the rest is just BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH and you know it

[afterhours]

do you really think that the patriots showed " ooohh.. big ben.. ooohh " anything, they were thinking of the post sesason. you win two games and you want to be corinated. the boy won't know to s#@t or go blind if they make it to afc champ game the squeelin kneelers were the best team then, but this is now.

[BigFish]

But the Steelers lost to the Ravens???? The Pats beat them..........hmmmmmm....very strange! I would just have to say that in the games against the Pats and the Eagles that the Steelers got......"lucky"!

[Vectorfisher]

Steelers lost first game with Maddox at the helm, now Big Ben holds the cards and you cannot compare how two teams play each other in plea of your argument just can't do it! Steelers manhandled the Pats AGAIN BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH You guys had better hope Indy doesnt play the Pats because they wont make it to the Steelers Indy can't keep losing to them bound to change and the way there playing I say WATCH IT!! Thats pretty funny lucky 24-3 EAGLES game they didnt get a 1st down until 2.00 before the half And take away the turnovers against the Pats and it is still a tie game. YAH there such a better team

[afterhours]

oooohhhhhh.........

[tynan19]

Philladelphia played exeptionally well today. The Pats played like they play . It may take them a quarter but when they fiqure out what works watch out. 96 yard touchdown drive was awesome.

Dillon is the man, I just love the way he busts to the outside puts up a stiff-arm and runs the defense over.

[Raider Ronnie]

I've got a feeling this is going to be the year of the Colts

[Mike P]

Originally posted by Raider Ronnie
I've got a feeling this is going to be the year of the Colts

Offense sells tickets and make Sportscenter highlights.

Defense wins championships.

Manning's record in big games is horrible, going back to his days at Tennessee when he couldn't get the Vols past Florida.

The Colts remind me of the Rams the year they won the SB---great dome team with a high octane turf/dome offense. Dome teams win SBs when they have home field advantage thruout the play-offs. That ain't happening with the Colts this year, unless the Pats finish 1-3 and the Steelers collapse.

[Raider Ronnie]

I may be wrong, but I think that high octane offense of the Rams DID win the super bowl that year , didn't they?
Mannings got a lot more weapons than he's had in the past!

[Vectorfisher]

I agree with Ronnie partially, part of me says hell ya they will be in the bowl or at least the AFC championship game but I am not sure the Colts can play a smashmouth game, like the Steelers are playing tonight. I think that is there downfall if you have to pick apart the Colts. There receivers remind me alot of the Rams and Vikings they run out of bounds don't like to get hit, etc. And I could be wrong but if DEFENSE wins championship games the Pats can't beat the Steelers cause there the # 1 DEFENSE in the NFL

[BigFish]

Funny, when the Steelers win they "manhandled" the opposition....when the Pats win they are "lucky"! I recall the Pats coughing the ball up quite a bit in that Steelers game....because they played sloppy, not because the Steelers played well! Though I will say after every time the Pats coughed the ball up the Steelers made the most of it by scoring TD's....but it was the Pats that beat themselves in that one Vectorfisher.....thats about what it takes for the Pats to lose....they need to beat themselves by playing sloppy and coughing up the ball and by the way....they have only played sloppy in 1 game out of the last...what is it....24 games? This is like......beating my head against the wall cause' you are never going to concede to the facts that are before you.....it is in the Pats record over the past 3 seasons....in the outcome of 2 of the 3 seasons....and in all of the stats that you ignore! The Pats take the lead first in virtually every game, they go into the fourth quarter with a lead and they never lose....the list goes on and on and on but many of you nay-sayers can face these facts.....the Pats are the best team in all of football! That is what the statistics undeniably show! Prove me wrong!

[Vectorfisher]

STATS dont mean crap STEELERS beat the Pats the rest is BLAH BLAH BLAH until proven different Best team in the NFL

[fishaholic18]

The Steelers just got LUCKY. That 2nd TD was bogus, incomplete. They even reviewed it and it was clearly incomplete!

[Mike P]

Originally posted by Raider Ronnie
I may be wrong, but I think that high octane offense of the Rams DID win the super bowl that year , didn't they?
Mannings got a lot more weapons than he's had in the past!

Yup--but they also played the NFC title game and the SB in a dome. Home in what used to be the TWA Dome for the NFC, and the Super Bowl in the Georgia Dome.

[BigFish]

Thats what I was looking for....no defense from Vectorfisher in regards to "stats" same as facts! Just throw up the blah, blah, blah arguement which means you have no defense!

[Raider Ronnie]

Pats Suck!!!

[BigFish]

We are going to refer to that as the "blah, blah, blah" defense!

[Raider Ronnie]

Larry,
You won't see me trying to jump on the Pats bandwagon because they are winning like you did during the world series!!!

[BigFish]

Were talkin' Patriots here Ron.....and you know what....I did not jump on the bandwagon......I admitted I was wrong and proven so.....more than I can say for some guys! By the way...yeah, I was positive the Sox were gonna get killed by the Yanks, and they were down 3 games to none......when they came back and beat the Yankees, sure I was impressed, but going into the series Ron....I knew they could beat the Cards.

[Vectorfisher]

Bigfish a bandwagon jumper Where, when, how?? Your not going to be bailing on the Pats after they don't make the big game this year are ya Bigfish, that would be too much like a New England fan

[BigFish]

You guys avoid the issue at hand by "jumping" me because you got no arguement......face facts and stats Gents!

[Vectorfisher]

Whatta are you talking about avoiding BF?? I must have missed something somewhere