Secrets of Large Bass

[Steve K]

Originally Posted by tattoobob

It doesn't take any skill to use bait it's all luck.

Completely disagree.

[tattoobob]

Reasons?

[Steve K]

Originally Posted by tattoobob

Reasons?

Using eels takes skill and experience. I know plenty of people who fish with eels and do well but then there are those who seem to consistantly catch large. Do you think that they are just lucky? I don't think so.

[JFigliuolo]

Originally Posted by Steve K

Using eels takes skill and experience. I know plenty of people who fish with eels and do well but then there are those who seem to consistantly catch large. Do you think that they are just lucky? I don't think so.

Most of us don't consider eels bait. They are in a class by themselves. Not lures, but not bait either. Kind of a hybrid of the two.

[DaveS]

Originally Posted by JFigliuolo

Most of us don't consider eels bait. They are in a class by themselves. Not lures, but not bait either. Kind of a hybrid of the two.

Negative, a live eel is bait, a dead "rigged eel" is a rigged bait, and a rubber eel is a lure.

[shadow]

Originally Posted by DaveS

Negative, a live eel is bait, a dead "rigged eel" is a rigged bait, and a rubber eel is a lure.

live herring or any finfish is livelining,live eel is "remote" fishing,rigged eel is plugging that is how it was thought to me.

[tattoobob]

Originally Posted by Steve K

Using eels takes skill and experience. I know plenty of people who fish with eels and do well but then there are those who seem to consistantly catch large. Do you think that they are just lucky? I don't think so.

I don't consider Eels Bait, A rigged Eels is definitely a lure. and a Live Eel is live bait, but it is fished like a lure. I concider Bait to be A chunk of fish or clam thrown and let sit on the bottom. baits that are fish like a lures I don't think is bait fishing.

[spence]

Bob, I've stood right next to a guy both fishing clams and been outfished 5:1.

The simple reason being he had intimate knowledge of the beach we were fishing and could place his bait where the fish were holding nearly every cast.

So you could question if this was really skill, or just experience...but if you're learning from your experiences then what's the difference?

-spence

[BAITfishing]

Hello all, I have been Lurking around for a wile and have read some very educational and some very amusing threads. I have put more then my allotted time in on the water, or so my wife says, and Fish everything from Plugs, T&W, Eels, and Yes, Dead Bait. In any type of fishing there is a certain amount of luck involved, right place right time scenario, but to say Bait fishing consists of more luck then other types, and I would have to disagree. The guy with the sand spike in the middle of Scarborough Beach @ noon on a Saturday who lands a “trophy” you can say is lucky. The guy/girl who knows that only around the new moon in May, there is sufficient water to support a trophy fish in a spot no bigger then a 1 car garage, No Blues around to scatter the bait, The Squid spawn is coming to a end so that 20lbr is closer to 30lbs because she has been munching on dead squid in the bays and know she is out front looking for one more squid before she disappears to her deep water haunts for the summer I think has a little more then luck on his/her side.
All in all a SKILL is to be able to fish the best method @ the right place @ the right time, be it Plugs or Bait.
Just my opinion… Take it for what its worth…

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by BAITfishing

Hello all, I have been Lurking around for a wile and have read some very educational and some very amusing threads. I have put more then my allotted time in on the water, or so my wife says, and Fish everything from Plugs, T&W, Eels, and Yes, Dead Bait. In any type of fishing there is a certain amount of luck involved, right place right time scenario, but to say Bait fishing consists of more luck then other types, and I would have to disagree. The guy with the sand spike in the middle of Scarborough Beach @ noon on a Saturday who lands a “trophy” you can say is lucky. The guy/girl who knows that only around the new moon in May, there is sufficient water to support a trophy fish in a spot no bigger then a 1 car garage, No Blues around to scatter the bait, The Squid spawn is coming to a end so that 20lbr is closer to 30lbs because she has been munching on dead squid in the bays and know she is out front looking for one more squid before she disappears to her deep water haunts for the summer I think has a little more then luck on his/her side.
All in all a SKILL is to be able to fish the best method @ the right place @ the right time, be it Plugs or Bait.
Just my opinion… Take it for what its worth…

you sound familiar nice post!

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[tattoobob]

Originally Posted by spence

Bob, I've stood right next to a guy both fishing clams and been outfished 5:1.

The simple reason being he had intimate knowledge of the beach we were fishing and could place his bait where the fish were holding nearly every cast.

So you could question if this was really skill, or just experience...but if you're learning from your experiences then what's the difference?

-spence

I never said bait fishing was a bad thing, Because I am a 50/50 fisherman, I fish with live herring/alewife in the spring, cut bait and sea worms the rest of the year. I also use my share of plugs and plastics. you have to be a well rounded fisherman and know when and where to use what. I have no problem with bait fishing or people who use bait 100% of the time. I just think it is all luck when a new comer or kid throws a chunk of bait out in the middle of the day and catches a 50 pounder.

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by Steve K

Using eels takes skill and experience. I know plenty of people who fish with eels and do well but then there are those who seem to consistantly catch large. Do you think that they are just lucky? I don't think so.

Any bait .... live or dead can be finessed to catch more than if not except for the rare situations which still may contain skill. Luck is always a factor for those who excell and for those that don`t ....I think.

[jim sylvester]

as far as eels are concerned,whether they are rigged or live is an art within itself, just as rubber worm fishing is in sweetwater. in regards to luck involved when catching cows, i feel the elite who know the water, the tides, the moon know that something LARGER (30+#bass)will be holding in a sepcific spot (boulders, rips, 1 foot drop in the middle of a 3 mile long beach). Put your time in, keep a log book and it will pay off. But there is without a doubt skill to fishing with eels.

No Way is it luck