They just took control house/senate and look .....

[Skip N]

It's rather funny, all the anti war folks are now talking about having a draft. These people just make less and less sense everyday, they want our troops out of Iraq ASAP, yet they want a draft, wich will mean sending more troops into Iraq?? I dont get liberals. They make no f'ing sense

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Originally Posted by Skip N

I dont get liberals. They make no f'ing sense

You don't make any sense. Reread your own post!!!

-spence

[Skitterpop]

Originally Posted by Skip N

It's rather funny, all the anti war folks are now talking about having a draft. These people just make less and less sense everyday, they want our troops out of Iraq ASAP, yet they want a draft, wich will mean sending more troops into Iraq?? I dont get liberals. They make no f'ing sense

You could`nt make this up or could you?

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Skitterpop

You could`nt make this up or could you?

You tell me, you guys are the ones calling for the draft! Why have a draft if you want to get out of Iraq ASAP?

[scoobe]

It's not about getting out of Iraq; it's about not getting into a war in the first place. The whole idea is if you have to send your own son/daughter off to fight you will be less likely to vote for war.

It's easy for those in power to start a war when their own families are sitting home safe and they can send off Joe Shmoe who is probably uneducated, impoverished, and has few other opportunities available to him.

Originally Posted by Skip N

You tell me, you guys are the ones calling for the draft! Why have a draft if you want to get out of Iraq ASAP?

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by scoobe

It's not about getting out of Iraq; it's about not getting into a war in the first place. The whole idea is if you have to send your own son/daughter off to fight you will be less likely to vote for war.

It's easy for those in power to start a war when their own families are sitting home safe and they can send off Joe Shmoe who is probably uneducated, impoverished, and has few other opportunities available to him.

You might want to research the current average education level of the American Military because the actual fact is our troops are better educated than their civilians counterparts. This whole stupid/uneducated Joe Schmoe GI thing is nothing but a bunch of BS. I see Rangels ploy as nothing but a veiled attempt at blackmailing military aged Americans.: "if we dont get of Iraq right now you will be forced against your will to join the military".

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Originally Posted by stripersnipr

I see Rangels ploy as nothing but a veiled attempt at blackmailing military aged Americans.: "if we dont get of Iraq right now you will be forced against your will to join the military".

Utter nonsense.

This has nothing to do with blackmail or education.

It's about how loose our policy makers have become with the all volunteer military.

It's about making sure we only wage war when it's really necessary, and then ensuring we give our troops everything they need.

It's the assumption that if Congress was to send their kids and grandkids to fight a war, they might think a bit harder about what exactly they were supporting.

Sure, it's a stunt...and nothing more, but the message is pretty true.

-spence

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by spence

Utter nonsense.

This has nothing to do with blackmail or education.

It's about how loose our policy makers have become with the all volunteer military.

It's about making sure we only wage war when it's really necessary, and then ensuring we give our troops everything they need.

It's the assumption that if Congress was to send their kids and grandkids to fight a war, they might think a bit harder about what exactly they were supporting.

Sure, it's a stunt...and nothing more, but the message is pretty true.

-spence

As usual your post is "Utter BS". This whole draft issue is simply a way to avoid fighting at any cost.

[slapshot]

Originally Posted by scoobe

It's easy for those in power to start a war when their own families are sitting home safe and they can send off Joe Shmoe who is probably uneducated, impoverished, and has few other opportunities available to him.

You owe the men and women of the military an apologee. That is a ridiculous thing to say.

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by scoobe

It's not about getting out of Iraq; it's about not getting into a war in the first place. The whole idea is if you have to send your own son/daughter off to fight you will be less likely to vote for war.

It's easy for those in power to start a war when their own families are sitting home safe and they can send off Joe Shmoe who is probably uneducated, impoverished, and has few other opportunities available to him.

You make me sick.

Go Tell my buddy who's currently in the Armys medical school program he's an idiot. I mean he ONLY has his Masters degree and will be a doctor in a few years. Pretty dumb huh?

You're a typical liberal who knows jack %$%$%$%$ about the people who serve in the armed forces. Go educate yourself and get back to me regarding our military's education level. Because clearly you are the uneducated one! Not our miltary.

You make me sick, go say what you just posted to the next Marine you see in uniform. I'm sure that will go over will.

[Bronko]

Originally Posted by scoobe

It's not about getting out of Iraq; it's about not getting into a war in the first place. The whole idea is if you have to send your own son/daughter off to fight you will be less likely to vote for war.

It's easy for those in power to start a war when their own families are sitting home safe and they can send off Joe Shmoe who is probably uneducated, impoverished, and has few other opportunities available to him.

They can't help themselves, it really is the way they think. It floors me that this line if thinking exists.

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QUICK - PILE ON SCOOBY BEFORE HE REALIZES HIS SILLY POST!!!

It's much easier than debating the substance of the issue!

-spence