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stripersnipr · 11-25-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scoobe

It's not about getting out of Iraq; it's about not getting into a war in the first place. The whole idea is if you have to send your own son/daughter off to fight you will be less likely to vote for war.

It's easy for those in power to start a war when their own families are sitting home safe and they can send off Joe Shmoe who is probably uneducated, impoverished, and has few other opportunities available to him.

You might want to research the current average education level of the American Military because the actual fact is our troops are better educated than their civilians counterparts. This whole stupid/uneducated Joe Schmoe GI thing is nothing but a bunch of BS. I see Rangels ploy as nothing but a veiled attempt at blackmailing military aged Americans.: "if we dont get of Iraq right now you will be forced against your will to join the military".

spence · 11-25-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stripersnipr

I see Rangels ploy as nothing but a veiled attempt at blackmailing military aged Americans.: "if we dont get of Iraq right now you will be forced against your will to join the military".

Utter nonsense.

This has nothing to do with blackmail or education.

It's about how loose our policy makers have become with the all volunteer military.

It's about making sure we only wage war when it's really necessary, and then ensuring we give our troops everything they need.

It's the assumption that if Congress was to send their kids and grandkids to fight a war, they might think a bit harder about what exactly they were supporting.

Sure, it's a stunt...and nothing more, but the message is pretty true.

-spence

stripersnipr · 11-25-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

Utter nonsense.

This has nothing to do with blackmail or education.

It's about how loose our policy makers have become with the all volunteer military.

It's about making sure we only wage war when it's really necessary, and then ensuring we give our troops everything they need.

It's the assumption that if Congress was to send their kids and grandkids to fight a war, they might think a bit harder about what exactly they were supporting.

Sure, it's a stunt...and nothing more, but the message is pretty true.

-spence

As usual your post is "Utter BS". This whole draft issue is simply a way to avoid fighting at any cost.

spence · 11-25-2006, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stripersnipr

As usual your post is "Utter BS". This whole draft issue is simply a way to avoid fighting at any cost.

This statement is simply a way to avoid discussing the issue at any cost!!!

Seriously, I'm sick of the Dems are wimps mantra.

Charles Rangle is a freaking Combat Veteran for christmas sake.

-spence

stripersnipr · 11-25-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

This statement is simply a way to avoid discussing the issue at any cost!!!

Seriously, I'm sick of the Dems are wimps mantra.

Charles Rangle is a freaking Combat Veteran for christmas sake.

-spence

Utter Nonsense but if the shoe fits. At this point my premise is "If Spence is against it, its good for America".

Backbeach Jake · 11-25-2006, 08:24 PM

I think thay Rangle's point is this: If we had a draft, those who represent us and vote for war would think twice about voting for war if their own sons and daughters were subject to that draft. After seeing how our present leadership personally handled the draft, I think that Rangle could use a lesson in cynicism. Our All-Volunteer Soldiers are the best that ever put a boot to the Earth. And they've been betrayed by our politicians.