This Imus thing

[Skip N]

I found it funny watching some of the rutgers players/coach say how offensive his comments were toward woman. I'm sure most of these girls listen to rap music and watch MTV, Ever see how much these rappers trash and degrade women!? Thats the norm in the Rap/MTV culture. But somehow thats ok, but when Imus says it, he's a racist monster! Its quite funny if you really think about. This selective outrage.

[fishpoopoo]

if i were one of the players on the rutgers team i wouldn't want to be referred to as a nappy-headed-ho.

it's one thing if you're poking fun but there was no real reason for imus to say that on the air (there was no punch line or humor value in that - it just wasn't really all that funny).

i don't think that imus is a hatemonger but he made a mistake ... only a black guy can call them "nappyheaded ho's" and get away with it ... it is what it is.

while some bad publicity is sometimes a good thing ... when you have sponsors leaving the show that is a bad thing net net.

[The Iceman 6]

Good article about it in NY Post:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04112007...lle_malkin.htm

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Skip N

I found it funny watching some of the rutgers players/coach say how offensive his comments were toward woman. I'm sure most of these girls listen to rap music and watch MTV, Ever see how much these rappers trash and degrade women!? Thats the norm in the Rap/MTV culture. But somehow thats ok, but when Imus says it, he's a racist monster! Its quite funny if you really think about. This selective outrage.

Isn't there a difference b/t saying Skip N's post is stupid and shows a lack of intelligence and saying some of these posts are stupid and show a lack of intelligence?

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Isn't there a difference b/t saying Skip N's post is stupid and shows a lack of intelligence and saying some of these posts are stupid and show a lack of intelligence?

= Chumming for a brawl.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by stripersnipr

= Chumming for a brawl.

No b/c I wasn't commenting on Skip's post perse. I was comparing the difference b/t making a general statement and being specific.

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Isn't there a difference b/t saying Skip N's post is stupid and shows a lack of intelligence and saying some of these posts are stupid and show a lack of intelligence?

Call my post stupid if you want, but you can't argue the fact that in todays black/rap culture, callng woman bitches and hoes is the norm. And treating woman as nothing more than sex objects in thier music videos is also cosidered ok and normal. Where is the huge uproar about all this? Why are they allowed to treat women like %$%$%$%$? And knowone cares!

Got double standard?

[PaulS]

I have no double standard b/c you won't find me standing up for Imus, Opie & Anthony, Stern, rappers, talk show hosts who think yelling louder than someone else is proving their point, calling someone a bad American b/c they have a different viewpoint, etc.

The point was that Imus specifically called an identifable group of people (the Rutgers woman) nappy headed Hos, while the rappers the players may listen to are not identifing specific people (and I'm not sticking up for the rappers).

[Andy D]

You bet there's a double standard, Just heard that pac- man Jones is suspended for 1 yr, for his Criminal Behavior. Next I hear that if he does not get ARRESTED between now and the start of training camp he has a chance to shorten his suspention. They want to fire Imus no second chances for making an assinine mistake. And the captain for the Rutghers Basketball team said they are making a stand for women Everywhere . So why don't they stand up against the degrading lyrics by the rap culture towards women ?

[rivsie11]

D & C cited this column today. I think the columnist sees things pretty clearly.

http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html

[Bronko]

Originally Posted by rivsie11

D & C cited this column today. I think the columnist sees things pretty clearly.

http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html

I read that earlier. It is spot on. I love the fact that some in the black community are highly embarrassed by the race hustlers like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. And keep in mind, Whitlock is no "Uncle Tom" as they say... this guy has attacked the white media on subjects like Bonds and Artest on numerous occasions.

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by rivsie11

D & C cited this column today. I think the columnist sees things pretty clearly.

http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html

Fantastic article! Right on the money

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Andy D

And the captain for the Rutghers Basketball team said they are making a stand for women Everywhere . So why don't they stand up against the degrading lyrics by the rap culture towards women ?

BINGO!!! Thats exactlly what i'm saying. But it aint gonna happen.....

[fishpoopoo]

Originally Posted by Andy D

So why don't they stand up against the degrading lyrics by the rap culture towards women ?

i'm sure there's no shortage of black feminists that decry hip-hop.

but ... hip-hop sells.

and i don't disagree there is a double standard and i think al sharpton and jesse jackson are a$$-clowns ... BUT...

...imus opened the door for the double standard to be exploited.

capiche?

[fishpoopoo]

he called a bunch of college kids "ho's" in a public forum.

what if one of your daughters was on the team?

[stripersnipr]

Originally Posted by Bassturbed

he called a bunch of college kids "ho's" in a public forum.

what if one of your daughters was on the team?

I'd be totally p/o'd and seeking damages. No excuse for Imus' actions or many of Sharptons actions. Both need to be held to the same standards of decency.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Basturbed...
Dont throw stones from a glass house. you use EVERY anti-asian term you can, but because of your heritage is it ok? So if Imus called a bunch of older white guys something would it be a problem... this got so f'ing blown out of proportion when it leads on every morning 'news' show, WEEI, Scoreamfm, etc... sick of it!

[fishpoopoo]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Basturbed...
you use EVERY anti-asian term you can, but because of your heritage is it ok?

well, to be completely 100% sincere with you, there IS a difference between deliberately trolling for sport in an online forum vs. pointlessly insulting a group of young people who have done nothing to deserve such scorn. i don't know what imus had to gain by calling them "nappy headed ho's" in front of a national audience. honestly.

anyways, yes, i can get away with saying that "all those damn litterbug beach-pooping scup poacher gooks ought to be deported."

Partly b/c it's true.

But you can't, cuz I'll go tactical on you with my yerrow ar shalpton persona.

hmmm, you just gave me a great idea for a new handle...

p.s. i can't make fun of nips over at SOL anymore. Who does that leave?