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08-06-2007, 10:04 AM
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#31
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08-06-2007, 10:31 AM
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#32
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Sack Of Mass
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Quote:
Originally Posted by b5545
I would tend to think it was a blue shark.
Water is still too cold for a great white .But for blue sharks they will come in close....
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Haven't you been watching shark week?!
They tolerate almost any water temp if there's food to be had
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08-06-2007, 11:11 AM
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#33
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canalman
Haven't you been watching shark week?!
They tolerate almost any water temp if there's food to be had
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Yup--if they can swim in San Francisco Bay and off Monterrey, Chatham is way comfortable for them 
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08-06-2007, 11:25 AM
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#34
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
The only thing that would have made this better is if Whitey had his snack in full view of a boatload of tourons who forked over big bucks for one of those lame "seal watch" cruises.
Who the hell would spend money to see what you can see right from the Lighthouse almost any day of the week?
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Oh that would have been priceless! I'd pay to watch the watchers.
Mike were you at the run with a cruiser yesterday afternoon?
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
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08-06-2007, 11:28 AM
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#35
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08-06-2007, 11:52 AM
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#36
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake
Oh that would have been priceless! I'd pay to watch the watchers.
Mike were you at the run with a cruiser yesterday afternoon?
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Around 7-7:30 in the evening? Yup.
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08-06-2007, 12:22 PM
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#37
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
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Water is definately not too cold. I spent a few summers a 100 miles north of san fran on the coast. The surf would be 57 or 58 in mid August. Some of the highest concentrations of whites in the world in those waters. Know a young girl who lost her leg to a white while surfing north of san fran ( that was about 8 years ago), she was 15 at the time and luckily lived. Water at the time would have been no more than 60 deg. or so... I was out friday off the vineyard sharking. Came to realize that I know 3 people, directly or close friend of a friend, who have been attacked by sharks. Tiger, white and bull. Thinking maybe I should play their birthdays in the lotto.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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08-06-2007, 02:53 PM
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#38
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Bridgewater
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Any trollers out there wanna volunteer to tow a plywood seal silhouette around with the umbrellas rigs and the video camera rolling? 
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08-06-2007, 04:59 PM
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#39
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lobster = striper bait
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt_Nutz
Any trollers out there wanna volunteer to tow a plywood seal silhouette around with the umbrellas rigs and the video camera rolling? 
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You ARE aware that its illegal to screw with Great Whites?
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08-06-2007, 05:35 PM
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#40
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Location: East Bridgewater
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Great Whites? What Great Whites?  I thought it was a "boating accident" and that the water was too warm anyway.
Would be fun to screw with the seal lovers if such a locally occurring video were to "materialize" in the media. And as I am typing this WRKO news just reported that "witnesses reported a seal was attacked by a shark."
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08-06-2007, 06:47 PM
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#41
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: N.K.
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Well all I can say is I hope the Shark uses his two way shark communicator and relays to all the other white sharks in the ocean that there's some chubby seals on the cape to be had for brunch just about anytime probably without a fight.Just from reading these boards and hearing about the problems they cause for the surfcasters in the area I hope they all get eaten or at least bit in half.I can see the water in the cape as one big chumslick from seals filled with bluefish,stripers and white sharks.Maybe some of the chewed up seals will wash up with some plugs stuck in there faces so the fisherman can get their plugs back.All too funny IMO. 
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08-06-2007, 07:05 PM
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#42
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Location: Plymouth, Ma
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My brother told me the chance of being killed by an Ostrich are greater than the chance of being killed by a Shark. I told him I doubted that because I've never seen an Ostrich where I fish.
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08-06-2007, 08:12 PM
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#43
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
The only thing that would have made this better is if Whitey had his snack in full view of a boatload of tourons who forked over big bucks for one of those lame "seal watch" cruises. 
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LMAO
reminds me of that time on the west coast they nursed a seal back to life and the day of the big release back to the wild, the seal goes in the water and out of nowhere a killer whale dvours it in front of all the shocked people
we need a great white shark smilie
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-06-2007, 08:20 PM
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#44
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Newport, RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
LMAO
reminds me of that time on the west coast they nursed a seal back to life and the day of the big release back to the wild, the seal goes in the water and out of nowhere a killer whale dvours it in front of all the shocked people
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It's too bad digital cameras with video were not as prevalent then as they are now... 
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08-06-2007, 10:46 PM
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#45
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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For the person that said Blue sharks don't eat seals... they're wrong....Blue sharks do indeed eat seals. They prefer temps of 44 - 60 degrees but will do fine in waters above 71 degrees.
The cape is full of blue sharks in july and august. They prefer coastal waters.
It might have been a great white but I still think it was a blue shark.
I caught a blue shark last year. about a 10-12 ft approx. 180lbs.
I guess we will never know what type it was unless someone sees it up close or catches it.
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08-06-2007, 11:04 PM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
You ARE aware that its illegal to screw with Great Whites?
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You're kidding...
Clown.. 
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08-07-2007, 03:30 AM
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Location: Maine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by b5545
For the person that said Blue sharks don't eat seals... they're wrong....Blue sharks do indeed eat seals. They prefer temps of 44 - 60 degrees but will do fine in waters above 71 degrees.
The cape is full of blue sharks in july and august. They prefer coastal waters.
It might have been a great white but I still think it was a blue shark.
I caught a blue shark last year. about a 10-12 ft approx. 180lbs.
I guess we will never know what type it was unless someone sees it up close or catches it.
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Uhh, that isn't a blue shark bite...........
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08-07-2007, 07:33 AM
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Super Moderator
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Location: Middleboro MA
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Mac, that pic is not the seal in the news, I grabbed that off the internet, I don't think harbor seals are that big, but maybe they are.
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-07-2007, 08:05 AM
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Cape Crusader
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Ashland, MA
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Seems most likely to be a white shark, though I understand that makos will whack seals when they get really big (the bluefish only serve as a snack at that point). I've seen very large makos right off Race Point in only ~15 feet of water, close enough to surfcasters to make them fill their waders if they knew.
I'm certainly no shark expert, but I was not aware that blue sharks would take a seal, even the really big blue sharks.
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08-07-2007, 08:34 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stripersnipr
My brother told me the chance of being killed by an Ostrich are greater than the chance of being killed by a Shark. I told him I doubted that because I've never seen an Ostrich where I fish.
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08-07-2007, 08:38 AM
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#51
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08-07-2007, 09:05 AM
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#52
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B5545, Where did you hear that Blue sharks eat seals? I'm sure their has been few one offs, but seals are definately not on the blue shark diet. Also you won't really find a blue shark in waters under 50 degrees worldwide, you are more likely to find them in waters of 58-72 degrees. A blue shark that is 9 feet from the nose to the fork in the tail should weigh anywhere from 300-350 pounds.
If it wasn't a Great White in Chatham which it probably was, then it was a Mako. Like someone mentioned earlier, a big Mako will go after seals as well.
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08-07-2007, 10:56 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Is it illegal to feed seals to sharks  ?
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08-07-2007, 11:22 AM
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#54
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Location: Uh, in a spot....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl F
Town's trying to claim it was a tiger shark...
They are Peesed that the folks went to the press too.. knew they would be...
Now.. today's update on CCTimes site...
Aggressive seals are causing a worry..
http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pb...EWS11/70807005
Take note.. illegal to feed them.. people on the island are hand feeding them bluefish
So..
who is breaking the law when the steal a fish of of your line?... 
feelgooders might try to make that reach....
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Tiger sharks are rarer than Whites around these parts and who really cares if it was a Tiger or a white? I think it was most likely a White, and it will happen again. How many last year Karl? 3 or 4 times I think it was. The more seals the more chances of it happening again. Those surfers on short boards should be wary. Sooner or later someone will have a close call or worse. Shark city here we come.
You have to wonder, this attack was witnessed. How many are not?
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Why even try.........
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08-07-2007, 11:46 AM
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#55
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Corona Del Mar, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rip Runner
B5545, Where did you hear that Blue sharks eat seals? I'm sure their has been few one offs, but seals are definately not on the blue shark diet. Also you won't really find a blue shark in waters under 50 degrees worldwide, you are more likely to find them in waters of 58-72 degrees.
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I beg to differ. I've seen a blue shark attack our gill net in late december north of nauset within 5 miles of the beach. That water was colder than 50...
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08-07-2007, 12:21 PM
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Location: Easton, MA
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If you spend enough time out at Monomoy, there's a chance that you'll see some Mako's and White's. It's the perfect spot for them to come in and feed. The bass and blues come in to forage on the bait that gets knocked around in the rips, the seals come in for the bass, then the sharks come in for the seals, bass and blues. I've seen Blue and Brown sharks finning up out there in pretty good numbers and have heard of several Mako sightings and there was a reported sighting of a Great White by a charter guy a couple of years ago. If the seals are moving up and in along the beaches, the sharks will follow.
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08-07-2007, 12:28 PM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
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So what do you guys think? Big baits and what a 50vsw??? Some balloons and someone to swim the bait out???? 
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08-07-2007, 12:34 PM
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#58
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaptail
Tiger sharks are rarer than Whites around these parts and who really cares if it was a Tiger or a white?
You have to wonder, this attack was witnessed. How many are not?
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That's exactly Karl's point, if I'm reading him right. The town seems determined to convince everyone that it was a tiger, which are in fact very rare. "Just an isolated incident, folks, nothing to worry about, Orleans isn't shark city. Come and swim without worry, that blasted tiger shark is probably halfway back to NJ by now". When in fact there are probably at least a dozen whites currently working the seals along that stretch of shore--mostly off the beach, but anyone with any savvy knows they're there.
The feelgooders will side with the cute, cuddly seals over JAWS. It wasn't treehuggers that got whites protected in the first place 
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08-07-2007, 01:04 PM
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Location: trying for Truro
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"Reports of seals waiting for a bluefish to be hooked and then simply pl#^^^^^&g it off a line are common this year."
Where the f have these guys been for the last 4 years??? I've been plucked a good 50 times in the last 2. I'll bet Slip is in that ballpark too, and I know at least 7-8 other guys to boot.
It is going to make for an interesting year if sharks start feeding on a regular basis. I know I won't just snap it off, but play it and keep it up top. Livelining seal for shark. Maybe I'll get my plug back...
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08-07-2007, 01:06 PM
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#60
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Lubina Estriada!
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