Shark Attack Off Chatham!!!

[Rip Runner]

B5545, Where did you hear that Blue sharks eat seals? I'm sure their has been few one offs, but seals are definately not on the blue shark diet. Also you won't really find a blue shark in waters under 50 degrees worldwide, you are more likely to find them in waters of 58-72 degrees. A blue shark that is 9 feet from the nose to the fork in the tail should weigh anywhere from 300-350 pounds.

If it wasn't a Great White in Chatham which it probably was, then it was a Mako. Like someone mentioned earlier, a big Mako will go after seals as well.

[Sluggoslinger]

Originally Posted by Rip Runner

B5545, Where did you hear that Blue sharks eat seals? I'm sure their has been few one offs, but seals are definately not on the blue shark diet. Also you won't really find a blue shark in waters under 50 degrees worldwide, you are more likely to find them in waters of 58-72 degrees.

I beg to differ. I've seen a blue shark attack our gill net in late december north of nauset within 5 miles of the beach. That water was colder than 50...

[Rip Runner]

Originally Posted by Sluggoslinger

I beg to differ. I've seen a blue shark attack our gill net in late december north of nauset within 5 miles of the beach. That water was colder than 50...

How long have you been running a Gill Net and how many blue sharks have you seen after October? I'm sure in all your years not many. I'm not saying you didn't see a blue shark in late December, your probably did, but it was certainly a one off situation and most likely a very large fish to be able to sustain itself in water that cold. Blue sharks are not generally found in waters below 50 degrees. Are you sure you didn't see a Porbeagle which are common in Cape Cod Bay in Late December and like colder water?

[Sluggoslinger]

Originally Posted by Rip Runner

How long have you been running a Gill Net and how many blue sharks have you seen after October? I'm sure in all your years not many. I'm not saying you didn't see a blue shark in late December, your probably did, but it was certainly a one off situation and most likely a very large fish to be able to sustain itself in water that cold. Blue sharks are not generally found in waters below 50 degrees. Are you sure you didn't see a Porbeagle which are common in Cape Cod Bay in Late December and like colder water?

It was a blue no question about it but you are correct that it was a very large one. Actually the biggest I ever saw. I was standing next to the gunnel looking down at it biting a chunk out of a cod in the net. Pretty cool to watch. I'm not sure what the habits of these sharks are but I think this one was a resident of the area because we saw him every once in a while. We'd try to hit him in the head with the gaff to save our fish.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by Karl F

[SIZE="6"]The sharks don’t travel in groups, and once a great white feeds, it won’t eat again for weeks, Capone said.

I guess they haven't been watching shark week. On last night show there must have been 20 Great Whites chasing seals off an Island in South Africa. Does that guy really think that a bite or two out a seal is going to keep a great white going for two weeks?

[Karl F]

They Got what they needed Mike.. One expert to say it, and another to swear to it...

I think we all know, they only are fooling themselves.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Karl F

I think we all know, they only are fooling themselves.

Naw, they don't believe it any more than we do--at least I know that Skomal doesn't. They're just being good soldiers.

And this Capone chick is probably some State Rep's cousin--and WTF is the Executive Office of Energy and Envirronmental Affairs??

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by Karl F

They Got what they needed Mike.. One expert to say it, and another to swear to it...

I think we all know, they only are fooling themselves.

I can't help but think of the mayor in Jaws!

[ridler72]

" I'm pleased and happy to repeat the news that we have, in fact, caught and killed a large predator that supposedly injured some bathers. But, as you see, it's a beautiful day, the beaches are open and people are having a wonderful time. Amity, as you know, means "friendship". "

[Flaptail]

Originally Posted by Karl F

It's great, it's white, it's a shark!

By Amanda Lehmert
Staff Writer
August 08, 2007
CHATHAM – If you weren’t one of the Outer Cape beach-goers who caught a glimpse of a shark munching on a seal last weekend, you may have missed your chance to see the beast feast.

The shark seen off North Beach in Chatham Saturday night was likely a great white, state shark expert Greg Skomal concluded after examining the seal carcass and talking to witnesses, said Lisa Capone, spokeswoman for the Executive Office of Energy and Environmental Affairs.

It’s rare, but not unheard of, to see great whites in the area, Capone said.

“Maybe two times a year they see carcasses that have this signature look of a great white shark attack,” she said.

That is good news for nervous swimmers – and bad news for shark enthusiasts. The sharks don’t travel in groups, and once a great white feeds, it won’t eat again for weeks, Capone said.

Show’s over. Go back to your beach blanket.






So, they admit it is a white.. what happened to the tiget theory they spewed yesterday?

And all's well folks, back on the beach.

Like my son said tho.. why they (Town Hall) worried?.. beach was closed for 39 days for two birds and they didn't care then.. why should they care if people stay away for sharks?

'good news for nervous swimmers" thats too funny, these bozos think it's the only one out there?

[b5545]

Originally Posted by Rip Runner

B5545, Where did you hear that Blue sharks eat seals? I'm sure their has been few one offs, but seals are definately not on the blue shark diet. Also you won't really find a blue shark in waters under 50 degrees worldwide, you are more likely to find them in waters of 58-72 degrees. A blue shark that is 9 feet from the nose to the fork in the tail should weigh anywhere from 300-350 pounds.

If it wasn't a Great White in Chatham which it probably was, then it was a Mako. Like someone mentioned earlier, a big Mako will go after seals as well.

Blue shark diets include squid and many types of fish such as haddock, cod, pollock and mackerel. They are known to prey upon larger fish such as swordfish & tuna and may sometimes eat seals.

[b5545]

Originally Posted by Rip Runner

B5545, Where did you hear that Blue sharks eat seals? I'm sure their has been few one offs, but seals are definately not on the blue shark diet. Also you won't really find a blue shark in waters under 50 degrees worldwide, you are more likely to find them in waters of 58-72 degrees. A blue shark that is 9 feet from the nose to the fork in the tail should weigh anywhere from 300-350 pounds.

If it wasn't a Great White in Chatham which it probably was, then it was a Mako. Like someone mentioned earlier, a big Mako will go after seals as well.

Rip runner send me your email and I will sendthe pic of a blue shark I got last year in may. The one i got was around 10 ft and weighed about 200 lbs. If you don't want to give out your email then I will tell you the site the pic is on.

[JohnR]

Is it illegal to feed seals to sharks ?

[Flaptail]

Originally Posted by Karl F

Town's trying to claim it was a tiger shark...

They are Peesed that the folks went to the press too.. knew they would be...

Now.. today's update on CCTimes site...

Aggressive seals are causing a worry..

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pb...EWS11/70807005

Take note.. illegal to feed them.. people on the island are hand feeding them bluefish

So..

who is breaking the law when the steal a fish of of your line?...
feelgooders might try to make that reach....

Tiger sharks are rarer than Whites around these parts and who really cares if it was a Tiger or a white? I think it was most likely a White, and it will happen again. How many last year Karl? 3 or 4 times I think it was. The more seals the more chances of it happening again. Those surfers on short boards should be wary. Sooner or later someone will have a close call or worse. Shark city here we come.

You have to wonder, this attack was witnessed. How many are not?

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Flaptail

Tiger sharks are rarer than Whites around these parts and who really cares if it was a Tiger or a white?

You have to wonder, this attack was witnessed. How many are not?

That's exactly Karl's point, if I'm reading him right. The town seems determined to convince everyone that it was a tiger, which are in fact very rare. "Just an isolated incident, folks, nothing to worry about, Orleans isn't shark city. Come and swim without worry, that blasted tiger shark is probably halfway back to NJ by now". When in fact there are probably at least a dozen whites currently working the seals along that stretch of shore--mostly off the beach, but anyone with any savvy knows they're there.

The feelgooders will side with the cute, cuddly seals over JAWS. It wasn't treehuggers that got whites protected in the first place

[fishbones]

If you spend enough time out at Monomoy, there's a chance that you'll see some Mako's and White's. It's the perfect spot for them to come in and feed. The bass and blues come in to forage on the bait that gets knocked around in the rips, the seals come in for the bass, then the sharks come in for the seals, bass and blues. I've seen Blue and Brown sharks finning up out there in pretty good numbers and have heard of several Mako sightings and there was a reported sighting of a Great White by a charter guy a couple of years ago. If the seals are moving up and in along the beaches, the sharks will follow.

[ThrowingTimber]

So what do you guys think? Big baits and what a 50vsw??? Some balloons and someone to swim the bait out????