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03-06-2008, 08:51 AM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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because, BD its for when the bass are deep and you need to get the bait down to them.
If the goal of fishing is to catch fish, how in the world can it be cheating? A dead bunker has NO action, so, a live eel must be cheating too?
This is a silly debate, as with any technique due diligence should be done to ensure the fisherman is not unneccesarily harming the fish. the reality of fishing is that you, all of you, put a hook through the mouth of a living thing, make it fight for its life just so you can have some fun, period. If you have a prblem with an effective way to do that, take up golf.
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03-06-2008, 09:33 AM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
because, BD its for when the bass are deep and you need to get the bait down to them.
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Since i am neither a BOAT guy nor a commercial fisherman, i'll still ask the same questions. if Mr Nolan can be so effective live-lining adult bunker ~unless he has a corner on the technique market~ then why risk more led for the mighty Atlantic and morone saxitilis? Fogeddah 'bout the increased striper mortalities when done improperly, though that is a by product of this method, no?
Additionally, won't chunking send your offering to the appropiate depths?
the redneck conversation was ticheek, of course. i am quite sure it's effective or so many people wouldn't be doing it. just seems above and beyond natural, a little bit smarmy, and do you reely believe that it is not some sort of performance enhancement that would similarily relate to ped's? umbrella rigs and wahoo rigging notwithstanding, since that is mostly just that, RIGGING ~without the added led.
another consideration for the mix is the MV Derby banning it for thier competitive purposes. why so if it is such an acceptable way to present one's offering? could it be that is unfair, unreasonable, or unsafe?
just curious, RIJIMMY, and i'm most interested in your responses.
don't see the resemblance to rigging eels or live-lining them as that is one of thier purposes in life, the purpose of forage and being on the lower end of the "Circle Hook of Oceanic Life". Cow kukunnah matattah, bw  !
Last edited by BassDawg; 03-06-2008 at 03:11 PM..
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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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03-06-2008, 08:55 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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[QUOTE=BassDawg;=/QUOTE]
BD, I KNOW you mean well, but "Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"?
Why why why do you chime in if you have never chunked or yo yo-ed or wire-lined or any other deep water boat technique for 'the great morone saxitilis'. You just absolutely showed that you have never live lined pogies for bass. How do you get the bait down to bass and past your 'boos'? Some guys 3-way, some guys add an egg sinker, some yo-yo. All add lead to the 'great Atlantic'
Yo-yoing just puts the lead inside the bait, thats the difference. It was banned at the MV tournament (they can say it is health reasons), but solid lead cannot, at a molecular level get into the meat and poison people, and yes there is some collateral damage as animal mentioned, I am certain, but wire line, and every other fishery has collateral damage. They banned it because, what is to stop someone from stuffing 3 of 4 yo-yo rigged pogies @2lbs each down the gullet of a bass; 42lbs becomes 48 or 50. '
Oops; I wasn't yo-yoing, must have already been inside that fish' thus it opens the door for cheating.
I chose not to rig them this way for bass (tuna yes) and do I know how, but truth be told I prefer to catch bass from shore, and save the boat for bottom fish, tuna and sharks.
What RIJim said a few replies below are true, even for a republican.
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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03-07-2008, 03:44 AM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Why why why do you chime in if you have never chunked or yo yo-ed or wire-lined or any other deep water boat technique for 'the great morone saxitilis'.
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Bryan, my question was because of my ignorance in this particular method of "getting deep". i don't believe that you have to have done all the ways of deep water fishing for striped bass to formulate an opinion/theory, albeit informed or not. that is the purpose of asking questions isn't it? to become better informed about a certain subject, right?
Very good response, most educational, and if you reread the part about the MV Derby i think you'll find that i suggested that this method left room for unethical competition. that is all  !
nice comments about my ineptitude, though.
whatever floats yer boat, trips your trigger,
or helps ya to sleep at night  .
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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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