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Old 11-04-2008, 03:45 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by FishermanTim View Post
(This is based on a spinning reel, not a bait casting reel)

With most spinning rod/reel matchups, the first guide should be as close to the size of the spool as possible. If the spool is bigger than the guide, when the speed of the line being pulled off the spool begins to slow down, the braid can/will have the tendency to loop over the first guide. This could be a cause. If the lure is heavy enough, it can cause the line to fly off of the reel in loops that are larger than the guide, causing friction/resistance, and may also be the cause of the line catching on a guide. .

I hope this was helpful (to anyone).
Be careful here. What is happening to RIfoosball is that he is getting a guide loop 1/2 way out the rod, exactly because the first guide is too large. Guide systems need to handle braid differently than mono. Because of its memory and relative stiffness, mono needs to be gradually reduced as it travels out the rod, starting with a large first guide. Braid, however is too limp and prone to pile on itself as it meets each guide. High speed photos show loops of braid flopping ahead of the guide before they are pulled through. The goal with braid is to get it damped down and under control as quickly as possible. Hence new guide systems for rods dedicated to braid start with 1st guides about 1/2 the spool diameter, and quickly taper down to small guides (size 10 or smaller) out the rest of the rod. If you do not get braid under control quickly, as it meets a smaller guide (or even the tip top) out the rod, it overlaps the guide and breaks. That is the noise RIF is hearing, line ripping itself off the base of a guide. Switching to fireline helps because it is less limp, but the real answer is rewrapping the rod with smaller guides.
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