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02-16-2010, 01:52 PM
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New North Carolina state record
Rumor of a New North Carolina State Record caught and wieghed in at Oregon Inlet Sport Fishing Center, 64LBS... Think it was caught Legally :-)????
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02-16-2010, 02:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CowHunter
Rumor of a New North Carolina State Record caught and wieghed in at Oregon Inlet Sport Fishing Center, 64LBS... Think it was caught Legally :-)????
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Maybe it came in with the scumbag that had 150 (oh no, 100) Stripers in the EEZ.
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02-16-2010, 04:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CowHunter
Rumor of a New North Carolina State Record caught and wieghed in at Oregon Inlet Sport Fishing Center, 64LBS... Think it was caught Legally :-)????
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Well if it wasn't caught legally,the person most certainly is NO sportsman
I couldn't judge it yet to answer your question because I have no evidence. I'll assume it was legal for now. I guess it is up to the state to decide.
now my question,Was it you?
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02-16-2010, 04:45 PM
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To answer you question: Think it was caught Legally :-)???? NO!!!!!!
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02-16-2010, 05:16 PM
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179, I guess that was a stupid question right???? I mean, maybe a stray fish did wander into legal waters.....
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02-16-2010, 06:36 PM
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Not to get off topic but,, that would have to b one of my fishin nightmares, to catch a record breaker while I'm alone. Being accused in odder circumstances has happened just ask McReynolds
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02-16-2010, 07:22 PM
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02-16-2010, 07:48 PM
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Let me know if this works...
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02-16-2010, 07:58 PM
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Winter Fish
Those fish have the feed bag on in that cold water, or
ARE THEY FEMALES FULL OF ROE???
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02-16-2010, 08:02 PM
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BuzzLuck
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At least they culled the picture so there was only 8 fish to 4 fishermen!
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 Given the diversity of the human species, there is no “normal” human genome sequence. We are all mutants.
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02-16-2010, 11:00 PM
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so sad...
It takes so many big breeders to make a man feel good about himself....
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02-17-2010, 06:20 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
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To all you guys who bitch about the commercial guys in Mass and RI, (of which I am not one so don't think I have a fiduciary interest), just take a good look at these pictures. HERE'S THE PROBLEM!
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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02-17-2010, 06:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CowHunter
179, I guess that was a stupid question right???? I mean, maybe a stray fish did wander into legal waters.....
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Cow I don't know for sure where the fish was caught but if there were odds I would say it's 80/20 the fish was caught outside the limit. I do know there are many of us legal fisherman here waiting for our shots hoping these fish move inside the limits. In years past these fish would push almost right up the the beach here in the OBX. The last few seasons the fish held up at the VA/NC line which is about 50-mile run. This year they have moved down to NC but 8-12 miles offshore. Many of us are watching the postings and listening at the docks on the locations. Bottom line is us legal fisherman have had 3 years of terrible striper fishing.
I don't want you to get the wrong idea there are many good fisherman here who do respect the laws, the problem imo is the Charters and Commercial fleet.
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02-17-2010, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 179
Cow I don't know for sure where the fish was caught but if there were odds I would say it's 80/20 the fish was caught outside the limit. I do know there are many of us legal fisherman here waiting for our shots hoping these fish move inside the limits. In years past these fish would push almost right up the the beach here in the OBX. The last few seasons the fish held up at the VA/NC line which is about 50-mile run. This year they have moved down to NC but 8-12 miles offshore. Many of us are watching the postings and listening at the docks on the locations. Bottom line is us legal fisherman have had 3 years of terrible striper fishing.
I don't want you to get the wrong idea there are many good fisherman here who do respect the laws, the problem imo is the Charters and Commercial fleet.
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I fished down there and see whats going on... Sucks when the fish are just over the 3 mile line... Alot of boats go over, but there are still good fishermen, charter captains that stay inside and try to pound it out... I think most have been aware that the fish have stayed well over 3 miles this year, well over, and that is why this has been making so much press this year on all the boards. Inside has been lifeless... I remember chasing the fish on the beach there over a decade ago, from Duck to Hatteras... Times and Patterns have changed... It would be wrong for me to suggest that every single person fishing down there is breaking the law..... I had friends that pulled their boats back weeks ago, no sense since the fish are and have been outside...
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02-17-2010, 08:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
To all you guys who bitch about the commercial guys in Mass and RI, (of which I am not one so don't think I have a fiduciary interest), just take a good look at these pictures. HERE'S THE PROBLEM!
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Thanks Piemma My whole point RI has what a 2 week commercial bass season I mean really?? Mass is longer but the fleet aint that big either..... I think if everyone here did some research they would realze a few things.. The Magnason- Stevenson act was enacted in 1976 same year NMFS came into play if you read it and see what the feds are doing you will understand why things are the way they are.. I have a video called " Truth Fishing crisis or government mismanagement" and im gonna say this if you watch it you would understand more its NOT the commercial guys destroying the stocks its the government..
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02-17-2010, 09:10 PM
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NC STRIPERS
Hello all, I'm a newbie here so be easy on me. I live here on the Outer Banks and would like to respond to a couple comments I've read. I've been an avid Striper fisherman since 1992. That's when the Rock first reappeared here on the OB since they dissappeared in the 60's. My first ocean caught Rock was 53 lbs, and I was instantly addicted. I haven't topped it since and I've caught thousands! The REALLY BIG problem as I see it is commercial waste. I mean either Rock being caught as bycatch by the Omega Protein types or as DISCARD by the trawlers. The quotas established for commercial fishing are being caught many times over but many never make it to market. For years we've seen it down here and recently it has been horrible. The trawl boys are only allowed 100 fish per vessel which is absolutely ridiculous! How do they expect a trawler to set a net and only catch 100? They catch up to 10,000 in a set, pick the biggest 100 and THROW THE REST OVERBOARD....DEAD!!!!!! Let's just say it was only 3000, that's a 300% overcatch/bycatch ratio!!! For every fish kept, 300 DEAD & WASTED! It's happened a couple times here over the past 2-3 weeks. 3 weeks ago I got a report from a friend working on a drop net boat fishing Sea Mullet (Whiting) who witnessed a trawler dumping THOUSANDS of dead Stripers right on the edge of the EEZ, it made him & his captain sick. Many of the other commercial captains & crews were pissed off by the sight as well, not to mention the charter captains & recreational anglers who saw it. They're not all bad guys, they're just trying to make a buck like everyone else & most play by the rules, but some morally corrupt dirtbags like the captain of the trawler in question just don't care!!! It happened again weekend before last INSIDE of Oregon Inlet in the area known as Hell's Gate which is west of Oregon Inlet on the way to Wanchese (the comm. fishing port). THOUSANDS of dead Stripers were seen from the sea buoy all the way up the channel into Davis Slough. The phone was ringing all day as we tried to get pics or video of the offending vessel with no luck. Thing is, I found out IT'S NOT ILLEGAL!!!! The law says that fish isn't caught 'til it's in the hold. The rules need to be changed NOW. If they're going to allow trawling, they need to lift the 100 fish limit and make it mandatory that all fish caught need to be kept and that poundage is applied to the quota. If they want to keep a limit of 100 fish per vessel to keep the market price up, make them fish hook & line. Either solution combined with better enforcement would prevent TENS OF THOUSANDS of Stripers from being WASTED. The beach seiners share their over-catch with the others who haven't caught their limit, why can't the trawlers? My dad taught me at at a very young age: "IF YOU KILL IT, YOU'VE GOTTA EAT IT". I'm also an advocate of tighter limits on recreational catches as well. I say issue tags much like we get for deer hunting to limit how many are caught and of what size. Make it mandatory to report your catch so the quota could be monitored and possibly issue 1 trophy tag per person per year so you can keep that fish of a lifetime. Just my 2 cents worth. Lawful recreational fishing is not the problem!
STOKES
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02-17-2010, 09:19 PM
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NC STRIPERS
Hello all, I'm a newbie here so be easy on me. I live here on the Outer Banks and would like to respond to a couple comments I've read. I've been an avid Striper fisherman since 1992. That's when the Rock first reappeared here on the OB since they dissappeared in the 60's. My first ocean caught Rock was 53 lbs, and I was instantly addicted. I haven't topped it since and I've caught thousands! The REALLY BIG problem as I see it is commercial waste. I mean either Rock being caught as bycatch by the Omega Protein types or as DISCARD by the trawlers. The quotas established for commercial fishing are being caught many times over but many never make it to market. For years we've seen it down here and recently it has been horrible. The trawl boys are only allowed 100 fish per vessel which is absolutely ridiculous! How do they expect a trawler to set a net and only catch 100? They catch up to 10,000 in a set, pick the biggest 100 and THROW THE REST OVERBOARD....DEAD!!!!!! Let's just say it was only 3000, that's a 300% overcatch/bycatch ratio!!! For every fish kept, 300 DEAD & WASTED! It's happened a couple times here over the past 2-3 weeks. 3 weeks ago I got a report from a friend working on a drop net boat fishing Sea Mullet (Whiting) who witnessed a trawler dumping THOUSANDS of dead Stripers right on the edge of the EEZ, it made him & his captain sick. Many of the other commercial captains & crews were pissed off by the sight as well, not to mention the charter captains & recreational anglers who saw it. They're not all bad guys, they're just trying to make a buck like everyone else & most play by the rules, but some morally corrupt dirtbags like the captain of the trawler in question just don't care!!! It happened again weekend before last INSIDE of Oregon Inlet in the area known as Hell's Gate which is west of Oregon Inlet on the way to Wanchese (the comm. fishing port). THOUSANDS of dead Stripers were seen from the sea buoy all the way up the channel into Davis Slough. The phone was ringing all day as we tried to get pics or video of the offending vessel with no luck. Thing is, I found out IT'S NOT ILLEGAL!!!! The law says that fish isn't caught 'til it's in the hold. The rules need to be changed NOW. If they're going to allow trawling, they need to lift the 100 fish limit and make it mandatory that all fish caught need to be kept and that poundage is applied to the quota. If they want to keep a limit of 100 fish per vessel to keep the market price up, make them fish hook & line. Either solution combined with better enforcement would prevent TENS OF THOUSANDS of Stripers from being WASTED. The beach seiners share their over-catch with the others who haven't caught their limit, why can't the trawlers? My dad taught me at at a very young age: "IF YOU KILL IT, YOU'VE GOTTA EAT IT". I'm also an advocate of tighter limits on recreational catches as well. I say issue tags much like we get for deer hunting to limit how many are caught and of what size. Make it mandatory to report your catch so the quota could be monitored and possibly issue 1 trophy tag per person per year so you can keep that fish of a lifetime. Just my 2 cents worth. Lawful recreational fishing is not the problem!
STOKES
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02-17-2010, 10:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by STOKES
Hello all, I'm a newbie here so be easy on me. I live here on the Outer Banks and would like to respond to a couple comments I've read. I've been an avid Striper fisherman since 1992. That's when the Rock first reappeared here on the OB since they dissappeared in the 60's. My first ocean caught Rock was 53 lbs, and I was instantly addicted. I haven't topped it since and I've caught thousands! The REALLY BIG problem as I see it is commercial waste. I mean either Rock being caught as bycatch by the Omega Protein types or as DISCARD by the trawlers. The quotas established for commercial fishing are being caught many times over but many never make it to market. For years we've seen it down here and recently it has been horrible. The trawl boys are only allowed 100 fish per vessel which is absolutely ridiculous! How do they expect a trawler to set a net and only catch 100? They catch up to 10,000 in a set, pick the biggest 100 and THROW THE REST OVERBOARD....DEAD!!!!!! Let's just say it was only 3000, that's a 300% overcatch/bycatch ratio!!! For every fish kept, 300 DEAD & WASTED! It's happened a couple times here over the past 2-3 weeks. 3 weeks ago I got a report from a friend working on a drop net boat fishing Sea Mullet (Whiting) who witnessed a trawler dumping THOUSANDS of dead Stripers right on the edge of the EEZ, it made him & his captain sick. Many of the other commercial captains & crews were pissed off by the sight as well, not to mention the charter captains & recreational anglers who saw it. They're not all bad guys, they're just trying to make a buck like everyone else & most play by the rules, but some morally corrupt dirtbags like the captain of the trawler in question just don't care!!! It happened again weekend before last INSIDE of Oregon Inlet in the area known as Hell's Gate which is west of Oregon Inlet on the way to Wanchese (the comm. fishing port). THOUSANDS of dead Stripers were seen from the sea buoy all the way up the channel into Davis Slough. The phone was ringing all day as we tried to get pics or video of the offending vessel with no luck. Thing is, I found out IT'S NOT ILLEGAL!!!! The law says that fish isn't caught 'til it's in the hold. The rules need to be changed NOW. If they're going to allow trawling, they need to lift the 100 fish limit and make it mandatory that all fish caught need to be kept and that poundage is applied to the quota. If they want to keep a limit of 100 fish per vessel to keep the market price up, make them fish hook & line. Either solution combined with better enforcement would prevent TENS OF THOUSANDS of Stripers from being WASTED. The beach seiners share their over-catch with the others who haven't caught their limit, why can't the trawlers? My dad taught me at at a very young age: "IF YOU KILL IT, YOU'VE GOTTA EAT IT". I'm also an advocate of tighter limits on recreational catches as well. I say issue tags much like we get for deer hunting to limit how many are caught and of what size. Make it mandatory to report your catch so the quota could be monitored and possibly issue 1 trophy tag per person per year so you can keep that fish of a lifetime. Just my 2 cents worth. Lawful recreational fishing is not the problem!
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I say again Sir Magnuson-Stevenson act of 1976 read it it says.. Stocks need to be brought back to historical highs... So NMFS IE retards say do it all at same time.. I dont seriously believe that ANY COMMERCIAL guy wants to destroy a stock of a fish its THEIR LIVELYHOOD reality WE yes WE I am commercial fisherman again DO NOT want to destroy our fish stocks.. How do ou think we feel when we could make ONE tow for way more profit but can keep HALF A TOTE yes 50 pounds of said fish... OK 50 pounds 2$ a pound hmm 100$ for the day were in the big money now we didnt cover fuel!!! so switch ney and start towing now comes a bag of swill or death can keep this or that but rest is dead WASTE... It sickening and the NMFS says oh you have MORE waste so catch even less and WASTE EVEN MORE no I am not joking seriously.. Yes I was talking fluke guys only cause its a a historic phenomoly high bio mass right now.. Here is the thing you cant bring everything back at once if you want lobster you cant bring certain fish levels up high and really if you want squid the universal meal of the ocean you cant be doin what they are doing cause everything eats squid...I know I am preaching to the quire here but come on folks dont blame all us we are a dying breed any way WE are the endangered species now a days.. I mean if you think it makes any of us feel good to destroy and waste the fish that we ARE MADE TO BY LAW your crazy.. We dont feel good when towing for squid and a 300# sword comes up and goes back dead to feed crabs oh but wait the US has restricetd its fleet so hard we HAVE LOST part of our national quota for swordfish to other countries???? yea reality thank your government and put the blame were it belongs please... NMFS DESTROYING FISHERMEN AND THEIR COMUNITIES SINCE 1976.......
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02-17-2010, 10:54 PM
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..As I said in the other thread about this subject, I hope it isn't a troll to get everybody's blood pressure rising.............
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02-20-2010, 09:04 PM
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Striper Hunter
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Whitinsville, Ma
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Amazing all these guys say they see the law being broken but yet no one drops a dime on the offenders
EZ fix. Cut rec catch from 2 to 1. Do the same for comm's...cut their catch in half.
Enforce the eez every day. Increase the fines/penalties. The monies raised from the fines more than pay for the enforcement
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02-21-2010, 12:21 AM
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Those fish have the feed bag on in that cold water, or
ARE THEY FEMALES FULL OF ROE???
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both
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