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Old 10-11-2011, 05:08 PM   #1
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This will be like putting a band-aid on a severed leg.
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Old 10-11-2011, 06:44 PM   #2
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...Because gut hooked bass are the reason for deteriorated stocks...can't be the worthless recreational and commercial regulations. Morons.

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Old 10-11-2011, 07:20 PM   #3
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:25 PM   #4
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The hook manufacturers will sue the gubberment to stop banning the use of most of their products........$$$$$$$$
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:03 PM   #5
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The hook manufacturers will sue the gubberment to stop banning the use of most of their products........$$$$$$$$
Or, the price of circle hooks go through the roof to make up for lost sales.
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:28 PM   #6
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...Because gut hooked bass are the reason for deteriorated stocks...can't be the worthless recreational and commercial regulations. Morons.
Obviously making people switch to circle hooks for bait is a bad thing. You'll never be able to catch a fish ever again right?

They do nothing, people bitch. They do something, people bitch. Who are the morons again?

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Old 10-11-2011, 07:40 PM   #7
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Obviously making people switch to circle hooks for bait is a bad thing. You'll never be able to catch a fish ever again right?

They do nothing, people bitch. They do something, people bitch. Who are the morons again?
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:56 PM   #8
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Obviously making people switch to circle hooks for bait is a bad thing. You'll never be able to catch a fish ever again right?

They do nothing, people bitch. They do something, people bitch. Who are the morons again?
I use circle hooks, silly goose.

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Old 10-11-2011, 08:48 PM   #9
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Obviously making people switch to circle hooks for bait is a bad thing. You'll never be able to catch a fish ever again right?

They do nothing, people bitch. They do something, people bitch. Who are the morons again?
Something isn't always better than nothing. Now they can say "see, we are taking steps to preserve the species" even though this potential regulation is relatively meaningless in the grand picture.

If they really see problems with the striped bass stocks, they'd move to a one fish per day standard.

They should just move towards a tag system and be done with it. Buy your license and receive 5 tags. Direct, quantitative evidence to how many fish really are being killed with a simple way of managing how many are taken out of the water. Enough screwing around.
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They should just move towards a tag system and be done with it. Buy your license and receive 5 tags. Direct, quantitative evidence to how many fish really are being killed with a simple way of managing how many are taken out of the water. Enough screwing around.
That's great - piss on a positive step, and counter with something ridiculous.

Likwid is right (I can't believe I just said that) - you guys piss and moan when nothing is done, and bitch even louder when something is proposed.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:15 PM   #11
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That's great - piss on a positive step, and counter with something ridiculous.
Not nearly as ridiculous as 2@28" and the people that take their limit as often as possible.

This will have zero effect on the systemic problems plaguing the species.
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:27 AM   #12
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Likwid is right (I can't believe I just said that)
go wash your mouth out with some herring chum....


I don't love this step, but would adapt if needed.

I'd still rather see 1@36".

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Old 10-12-2011, 05:45 AM   #13
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Taking less fish is not a ridiculous suggestion towards saving the stocks. The problem isn't gut hooked bass, it's over fishing by recs and coms. Hook management seems like a terrible waste of time. Are we really having this argument?

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Old 10-12-2011, 08:10 AM   #14
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go wash your mouth out with some herring chum....


I don't love this step, but would adapt if needed.

I'd still rather see 1@36".
On point Bryan. 1 36" is part of the answer.

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Old 10-12-2011, 07:34 PM   #15
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go wash your mouth out with some herring chum....


I don't love this step, but would adapt if needed.

I'd still rather see 1@36".

That's high class, expensive whiting chum these days, sir.

And you're absolutely right about 1 @ 36" if you really want to bring the levels back up.

My point is this - circle hooks have been proven to decrease mortality, therefore good in my book.
There are certainly bigger problems out there - total catch, black market, poachers, Mid-Water trawler by-catch, draggers culling in the Carolinas - but this is one step that is easy to implement without hitting any one group too hard, and without hitting anyone in the pocketbook. This is one step, and there should be more.


And anyone that doesn't think this will make any difference, didn't see the sh*t show that went on at P-town 3 seasons ago.
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