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Old 07-29-2012, 06:11 AM   #1
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I think a more obvious answer is that you don't see a lot of black people or Muslims out protesting gay marriage. It's usually white Christians.

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I see. Spence, a few questions/comments...

First, do you have any data, any at all, to support your argument? I see black leaders on Foxnews all the time (that being the only network that bothers to mention that blacks are, as a group, opposed to gay marriage), denouncing gay marriage. Blacks and Hispanics were the reason why gay marriage was defeated in the California vote, and I never, not once, heard a liberal refer to blacks or Hispanics as bigoted.

Second, you're going to sit there with a straight face, and tell me that liberals aren't opposed to being anti-gay marriage, as long as one doesn't go to a public demonstration about the subject? Accordong to liberals, it's OK for one to vote against gay marriage, as long as you don't publicly protest? That's your idea of an "obvious answer"

Third, has the CEO of Chich Fil-A ever been seen at an anti gay marriage protest? If not, why is eh being called a bigot?

Fourth. If you are correct that what liberals oppose are public demonstrations (and of course you are not), why do liberals claim that conservatives are anti-woman, and are waging a "war on women"? Have you ever seen conservatives hold a public demonstration to publicly announce their opposition to women?

Fifth, have you been painting inside with the windows shut? Please remember to open the windows a crack, the fumes are getting to you...
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:21 AM   #2
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First, do you have any data, any at all, to support your argument? I see black leaders on Foxnews all the time (that being the only network that bothers to mention that blacks are, as a group, opposed to gay marriage), denouncing gay marriage. Blacks and Hispanics were the reason why gay marriage was defeated in the California vote, and I never, not once, heard a liberal refer to blacks or Hispanics as bigoted.
That's because you probably watch too much FOX News.

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Second, you're going to sit there with a straight face, and tell me that liberals aren't opposed to being anti-gay marriage, as long as one doesn't go to a public demonstration about the subject? Accordong to liberals, it's OK for one to vote against gay marriage, as long as you don't publicly protest? That's your idea of an "obvious answer"
No, I'm saying the white conservative Christians get the most attention because they're the most visible and hence easiest target. Go Google anti-gay protest images and tell me how many black people or Muslims you see.

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Third, has the CEO of Chich Fil-A ever been seen at an anti gay marriage protest? If not, why is eh being called a bigot?
Because he said..."God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to try to redefine what marriage is about."

bigot (ˈbɪɡət)

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a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race

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Fourth. If you are correct that what liberals oppose are public demonstrations (and of course you are not), why do liberals claim that conservatives are anti-woman, and are waging a "war on women"? Have you ever seen conservatives hold a public demonstration to publicly announce their opposition to women?
Now you're just making stuff up. As for the war on women, it's called a...

METAPHOR

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Fifth, have you been painting inside with the windows shut? Please remember to open the windows a crack, the fumes are getting to you...
I'd note that for someone who is obsessed with the suspected intolerance of others you label anyone who hold a differing opinion as having mental issues or being on drugs.

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[QUOTE=spence;951041]bigot (ˈbɪɡət)

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hello Bigot

Spence...only posted that because it's very easy to claim this just because others happen to disagree with your world view...we all seem intolerant to those that hold differing views...shouldn't be tossed about ....

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Old 07-29-2012, 09:43 AM   #4
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That's because you probably watch too much FOX News.


No, I'm saying the white conservative Christians get the most attention because they're the most visible and hence easiest target. Go Google anti-gay protest images and tell me how many black people or Muslims you see.



Because he said..."God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to try to redefine what marriage is about."

bigot (ˈbɪɡət)

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Now you're just making stuff up. As for the war on women, it's called a...

METAPHOR


I'd note that for someone who is obsessed with the suspected intolerance of others you label anyone who hold a differing opinion as having mental issues or being on drugs.

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"That's because you probably watch too much FOX News."

If you say that blacks don't protest gay marriage, I'd suggest you don't watch enough FoxNews.

"Go Google anti-gay protest images and tell me how many black people or Muslims you see."

I did that for you. and I don't recall any liberals saying that the 1300 black ministers who protested gay marriage, were bigots.

"Now you're just making stuff up. As for the war on women, it's called a metaphor"

OK. First, you say I'm makibg up the fact that liberals claim there is a conservative war on women. Then you say the liberal claim of the conservative war on women is ametaphor. Spence, either the liberal claims of a war on women doesn't exist, or it's a metaphor. It cannot be both.

"you label anyone who hold a differing opinion as having mental issues "

Wrong. I don't label "anyone" with differing opinions as mentally unglued. I only refer to people thusly who believe things that are demonstrably false, or who are guilty of spectacular hypocrisy. Anyone who claims to be "tolerant", yet who supports Rahn Emanuel's claim that Christians can't open a business if they voice their beliefs, is an unbelievable hypocrit. You displayed your lunacy when you claimed that liberals ignore black "intolerance" because blacks don't show their intolerance in public. Every person here knows why liberals won't call blacks out on this, because they need black votes. In other words, it's OK to be opposed to gay marriage if you have been anointed with "victim" status by liberals.
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