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		|  11-10-2012, 03:49 PM | #1 |  
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				 | I was talking with my neighbor earlier today.He works for one of the biggest environmental clean up companies in the country.
 They are laying off 20% before Jan  (thousands getting laid off)
 He rattled off a list of other big national companies he knows personally doing the same and others that will be cutting hours in half to avoid paying benefits.
 Scott Brown stopped by my house today also.
 He was in a rush but I had a quick conversation with him.
 In his own words "We are screwed"
 He said the real unemployment rate is 14% and we will see it  in the 20s
 By the way, Scott was going around with his truck collecting  signs,  I'll guarantee Granny Warren would never be see doing manual labor like removing campaign signs from peoples lawns !
 
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				 | shhhhh...noone is getting laid off.....that's a myth started by Hannity and Limbaugh the porn merchant..... 
Brown has lot's of free time, he should have picked up both his and Warren's signs after losing to that ___....oooops...sorry...that's Senator ___ Liawatha....wait...that's all wrong and it will no doubt inflame Paul.....Senator Kennedy in drag?   funny...does she drinK???....oh no, we've already got another new Kennedy who claims he understands the middle class better than the guy that he ran against who served(s) in the Marines and has actually spent some time in the middle class.....so confusing
 
"my peepaw had high cheekbones like all of the indians do" or whatever she said... makes me laugh everytime I hear the cut
 
I'd be really happy if the Raiders won a game or two more by the end of the season    
I know a lot of people at all levels of the restaurant industry and the all work many more than 40 hours a week, actually that's true for most people that I know...
 
part time is the new full time under Obama...they did this in France to increase employment%..limited the number of hours that you could work, the rationalization was that if you limit the number of hours for a workers by law the businesses would have to hire more workers to fill those hours...BRILLIANT@!@!!
 
The 35-hour working week is a measure adopted first in France, in February 2000, under Prime Minister Lionel Jospin's Plural Left government; it was pushed by Minister of Labour Martine Aubry. The previous legal duration of the working week was 39 hours, which had been established by Franηois Mitterrand, also a member of the Socialist Party. The 35-hour working week was already in the Socialist Party's 1981 electoral program, titled 110 Propositions for France.
 
Rationale: The main stated objectives of the law were twofold:
 
To reduce unemployment and yield a better division of labor, in a context where some people work long hours while some others are unemployed. A 10.2% decrease in the hours extracted from each worker would, theoretically, require firms to hire correspondingly more workers, a remedy for unemployment.
French unemployment hits 13-year high 
PARIS | Thu Sep 6, 2012 3:15am EDT 
 
PARIS (Reuters) - France's unemployment rate rose to its highest level in 13 years in the second quarter, official data showed on Thursday, in a setback to the Socialist government, which was elected on a pledge to bring down the jobless rate.
 
The rise in unemployment to 10.2 percent, measured according to the International Labour Organisation's (ILO) criteria, comes as the euro zone's second-largest economy has posted three consecutive quarters of zero growth.
 
Many economists predict unemployment, which stood at 10.0 percent in the first three months of the year, will continue to rise as companies seek to rebuild margins.
 
A number of French companies have recently announced plans to layoff workers, including retailer Carrefour (CARR.PA) and car maker Peugeot (PEUP.PA).
it's currently 10.8% and appears to be rising   I'm thinking mandated 28 hours per week work weeks should provide plenty of hours for those unemployed to get employed with the freed up hours from the people that are currently hogging all of the hours and remedy the situation in no time..... 
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		|  11-10-2012, 04:30 PM | #3 |  
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				 | Scott indicated Kerry will be getting the nod for Hilary's old job since her being thrown under the bus. 
Scott will be running for his seat.
 
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					Originally Posted by scottw  shhhhh...noone is getting laid off.....that's a myth started by Hannity and Limbaugh the porn merchant..... 
Brown has lot's of free time, he should have picked up both his and Warren's signs after losing to that ___....oooops...sorry...that's Senator ___ Liawatha....wait...that's all wrong and it will no doubt inflame Paul.....Senator Kennedy in drag?   funny...does she drinK???....oh no, we've already got another new Kennedy who claims he understands the middle class better than the guy that he ran against who served(s) in the Marines and has actually spent some time in the middle class.....so confusing
 
"my peepaw had high cheekbones like all of the indians do" or whatever she said... makes me laugh everytime I hear the cut
 
I'd be really happy if the Raiders won a game or two more by the end of the season    
I know a lot of people at all levels of the restaurant industry and the all work many more than 40 hours a week, actually that's true for most people that I know...
 
part time is the new full time under Obama...they did this in France to increase employment%..limited the number of hours that you could work, the rationalization was that if you limit the number of hours for a workers by law the businesses would have to hire more workers to fill those hours...BRILLIANT@!@!!
 
The 35-hour working week is a measure adopted first in France, in February 2000, under Prime Minister Lionel Jospin's Plural Left government; it was pushed by Minister of Labour Martine Aubry. The previous legal duration of the working week was 39 hours, which had been established by Franηois Mitterrand, also a member of the Socialist Party. The 35-hour working week was already in the Socialist Party's 1981 electoral program, titled 110 Propositions for France.
 
Rationale: The main stated objectives of the law were twofold:
 
To reduce unemployment and yield a better division of labor, in a context where some people work long hours while some others are unemployed. A 10.2% decrease in the hours extracted from each worker would, theoretically, require firms to hire correspondingly more workers, a remedy for unemployment.
French unemployment hits 13-year high 
PARIS | Thu Sep 6, 2012 3:15am EDT 
 
PARIS (Reuters) - France's unemployment rate rose to its highest level in 13 years in the second quarter, official data showed on Thursday, in a setback to the Socialist government, which was elected on a pledge to bring down the jobless rate.
 
The rise in unemployment to 10.2 percent, measured according to the International Labour Organisation's (ILO) criteria, comes as the euro zone's second-largest economy has posted three consecutive quarters of zero growth.
 
Many economists predict unemployment, which stood at 10.0 percent in the first three months of the year, will continue to rise as companies seek to rebuild margins.
 
A number of French companies have recently announced plans to layoff workers, including retailer Carrefour (CARR.PA) and car maker Peugeot (PEUP.PA).
it's currently 10.8% and appears to be rising   I'm thinking mandated 28 hours per week work weeks should provide plenty of hours for those unemployed to get employed with the freed up hours from the people that are currently hogging all of the hours and remedy the situation in no time.....  |  |  
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		|  11-10-2012, 05:24 PM | #4 |  
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					Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie  Scott indicated Kerry will be getting the nod for Hilary's old job since her being thrown under the bus.Scott will be running for his seat.
 |  I have a better idea....you lost...get out....I'm so sick of these entrenched politicians( I know that his stay was brief)...but these guys get a taste and suddnely they have to go back to Washington asap, he spent a ton of other people's dough and lost, someone else's turn....beat it....RI has me completely jaundiced, the Repubs had really solid individuals running against Cicciline and Whitehouse and others, people with character and accomplishment and RI chose to send the lying weasles back to Washington....wasn't really close....so disappointing...Scott Brown will get crushed running against whoever they put up to replace Kerry, it's Mass.,  his win was a freak occurance.....does Kerry have any kids that can inherit the seat? |  
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		|  11-12-2012, 04:21 PM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by scottw  Scott Brown will get crushed running against whoever they put up to replace Kerry, it's Mass.,  his win was a freak occurance.....does Kerry have any kids that can inherit the seat? |  Looking back historically, Massachusetts isnt so liberal.    
Since 1900 Massachusetts has elected 33 different Governors.   
19 were Republican and 14 Democrats.   
6 out of the last 10 Governors in Massachusetts have been Republican.   
As for Senators, prior to Kerry and Kennedy (and it is going back a while), it was a majority of Republican Senators representing Massachusetts than Democratic.
 
Interesting to see that more Republican Governors have held office in MA than Democratic (here is a list)
 
Winthrop M. Crane	January 4, 1900  January 8, 1903	Republican 
John L. Bates		January 8, 1903  January 5, 1905	Republican 
William Lewis Douglas	January 5, 1905  January 4, 1906	Democratic 
Curtis Guild, Jr.		January 4, 1906  January 7, 1909	Republican 
Ebenezer Draper 	January 7, 1909  January 5, 1911	Republican 
Eugene Foss		January 5, 1911  January 8, 1914	Democratic 
David I. Walsh		January 8, 1914  January 6, 1916	Democratic 
Samuel W. McCall	January 6, 1916  January 2, 1919	Republican 
Calvin Coolidge		January 2, 1919  January 6, 1921	Republican 
Channing H. Cox	January 6, 1921  January 8, 1925	Republican 
Alvan T. Fuller		January 8, 1925  January 3, 1929	Republican 
Frank G. Allen		January 3, 1929  January 8, 1931	Republican 
Joseph B. Ely		January 8, 1931  January 3, 1935	Democratic 
James Michael Curley	January 3, 1935  January 7, 1937	Democratic 
Charles F. Hurley	January 7, 1937  January 5, 1939	Democratic 
Leverett Saltonstall	January 5, 1939  January 3, 1945	Republican 
Maurice J. Tobin	January 3, 1945  January 2, 1947	Democratic 
Robert F. Bradford	January 2, 1947  January 6, 1949	Republican 
Paul A. Dever		January 6, 1949  January 8, 1953	Democratic 
Christian Herter	January 8, 1953  January 3, 1957	Republican 
Foster Furcolo		January 3, 1957  January 5, 1961	Democratic 
John A. Volpe		January 5, 1961  January 3, 1963	Republican 
Endicott Peabody	January 3, 1963  January 7, 1965	Democratic 
John A. Volpe		January 7, 1965  January 22, 1969	Republican 
Francis W. Sargent	January 22, 1969  January 2, 1975	Republican 
Michael Dukakis	January 2, 1975  January 4, 1979	Democratic 
Edward J. King		January 4, 1979  January 6, 1983	Democratic 
Michael Dukakis	January 6, 1983  January 3, 1991	Democratic 
William Weld		January 3, 1991  July 29, 1997	      	Republican 
Paul Cellucci		July 29, 1997 	April 10, 2001		Republican 
Jane Swift		April 10, 2001 	January 2, 2003		Republican 
Mitt Romney		January 2, 2003  January 4, 2007	Republican 
Deval Patrick		January 4, 2007  Present		Democratic |  
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		|  11-12-2012, 05:43 PM | #6 |  
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				 | [QUOTE=Piscator;969053]Looking back historically, Massachusetts isn’t so liberal.   Since 1900 Massachusetts has elected 33 different Governors.
 19 were Republican and 14 Democrats.
 6 out of the last 10 Governors in Massachusetts have been Republican.
 As for Senators, prior to Kerry and Kennedy (and it is going back a while), it was a majority of Republican Senators representing Massachusetts than Democratic. QUOTE
 
 
 so you're saying he's got a shot? "historically speaking"
 
 Massachusetts
 
 Senators
 
 Sen. John Kerry [D]
 Sen. Scott Brown [R].....eeeeeeerrrrr...Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D)
 
 Representatives
 
 1st District
 Rep. John Olver [D]
 2nd District
 Rep. Richard Neal [D]
 3rd District
 Rep. James “Jim” McGovern [D]
 4th District
 Rep. Barney Frank [D]..... Some Kennedy (D)
 5th District Rep.
 Niki Tsongas [D]
 6th District
 Rep. John Tierney [D]
 7th District
 Rep. Edward “Ed” Markey [D]
 8th District
 Rep. Michael Capuano [D]
 9th District
 Rep. Stephen Lynch [D]
 10th District
 Rep. William Keating [D]
 
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		|  11-12-2012, 06:18 PM | #7 |  
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					Originally Posted by Piscator  Looking back historically, Massachusetts isnt so liberal.   Since 1900 Massachusetts has elected 33 different Governors.
 19 were Republican and 14 Democrats.
 6 out of the last 10 Governors in Massachusetts have been Republican.
 As for Senators, prior to Kerry and Kennedy (and it is going back a while), it was a majority of Republican Senators representing Massachusetts than Democratic. QUOTE
 
 
 so you're saying he's got a shot? "historically speaking"
 
 Massachusetts
 
 Senators
 
 Sen. John Kerry [D]
 Sen. Scott Brown [R].....eeeeeeerrrrr...Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D)
 
 Representatives
 
 1st District
 Rep. John Olver [D]
 2nd District
 Rep. Richard Neal [D]
 3rd District
 Rep. James Jim McGovern [D]
 4th District
 Rep. Barney Frank [D]..... Some Kennedy (D)
 5th District Rep.
 Niki Tsongas [D]
 6th District
 Rep. John Tierney [D]
 7th District
 Rep. Edward Ed Markey [D]
 8th District
 Rep. Michael Capuano [D]
 9th District
 Rep. Stephen Lynch [D]
 10th District
 Rep. William Keating [D]
 
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 |  Yes, I'd say he has a shot. Massachusetts is a wierd place when it comes to Politics
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		|  11-13-2012, 05:25 AM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by Piscator  Looking back historically, Massachusetts isnt so liberal.   Since 1900 Massachusetts has elected 33 different Governors.
 19 were Republican and 14 Democrats.
 6 out of the last 10 Governors in Massachusetts have been Republican.
 As for Senators, prior to Kerry and Kennedy (and it is going back a while), it was a majority of Republican Senators representing Massachusetts than Democratic.
 
 Interesting to see that more Republican Governors have held office in MA than Democratic (here is a list)
 
 Winthrop M. Crane	January 4, 1900  January 8, 1903	Republican
 John L. Bates		January 8, 1903  January 5, 1905	Republican
 William Lewis Douglas	January 5, 1905  January 4, 1906	Democratic
 Curtis Guild, Jr.		January 4, 1906  January 7, 1909	Republican
 Ebenezer Draper 	January 7, 1909  January 5, 1911	Republican
 Eugene Foss		January 5, 1911  January 8, 1914	Democratic
 David I. Walsh		January 8, 1914  January 6, 1916	Democratic
 Samuel W. McCall	January 6, 1916  January 2, 1919	Republican
 Calvin Coolidge		January 2, 1919  January 6, 1921	Republican
 Channing H. Cox	January 6, 1921  January 8, 1925	Republican
 Alvan T. Fuller		January 8, 1925  January 3, 1929	Republican
 Frank G. Allen		January 3, 1929  January 8, 1931	Republican
 Joseph B. Ely		January 8, 1931  January 3, 1935	Democratic
 James Michael Curley	January 3, 1935  January 7, 1937	Democratic
 Charles F. Hurley	January 7, 1937  January 5, 1939	Democratic
 Leverett Saltonstall	January 5, 1939  January 3, 1945	Republican
 Maurice J. Tobin	January 3, 1945  January 2, 1947	Democratic
 Robert F. Bradford	January 2, 1947  January 6, 1949	Republican
 Paul A. Dever		January 6, 1949  January 8, 1953	Democratic
 Christian Herter	January 8, 1953  January 3, 1957	Republican
 Foster Furcolo		January 3, 1957  January 5, 1961	Democratic
 John A. Volpe		January 5, 1961  January 3, 1963	Republican
 Endicott Peabody	January 3, 1963  January 7, 1965	Democratic
 John A. Volpe		January 7, 1965  January 22, 1969	Republican
 Francis W. Sargent	January 22, 1969  January 2, 1975	Republican
 Michael Dukakis	January 2, 1975  January 4, 1979	Democratic
 Edward J. King		January 4, 1979  January 6, 1983	Democratic
 Michael Dukakis	January 6, 1983  January 3, 1991	Democratic
 William Weld		January 3, 1991  July 29, 1997	      	Republican
 Paul Cellucci		July 29, 1997 	April 10, 2001		Republican
 Jane Swift		April 10, 2001 	January 2, 2003		Republican
 Mitt Romney		January 2, 2003  January 4, 2007	Republican
 Deval Patrick		January 4, 2007  Present		Democratic
 |  They put Tierney back in office Who has definitely had some sort of a role in an illegal gambling ring. I don't care who you are, your wife has an additional $240,000 hanging around you know about it. 
 
Then there is the woman from Athol who got voted back into the house even though she accused her competitor of selling cocaine,fraudulently. 
 
Not to mention Liawatha. Putting that woman in the Senate is purely moronic.  She is a proven liar And definitely difficult to stomach. 
 
Aside from that, How many Massachusetts speakers in a row now Have wound up in prison? Common thread They all have D' 
S next to their name. 
 
The best one nation wide by far However Is Jesse Jackson Junior Getting elected into office After it was proven he tried to buy Barack Obama's seat in the Senate from Rod Blagojevich
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					Originally Posted by Jackbass  The best one nation wide by far However Is Jesse Jackson Junior Getting elected into office After it was proven he tried to buy Barack Obama's seat in the Senate from Rod BlagojevichPosted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  and wasn't he re-elected while in drug rehab?
 
here is how the republican party needs to moderate in order to re-establish itself given the climate and trends of the electorate in the next go around...
abortion .....free, government provided and paid for abortions for anyone desiring one...in addition....the government will pay a $10,000 bonus per abortion(the average cost of one year in a public school) simply calculating the enormous amount of money that Julia's Life will cost the government and taxpayers it makes more sense to reward the person aborting the non-person for making such a wise but probably difficult "choice"
gay marriage ....there will be no gender designations for marriage nor any limits going forward, you may marry whomever you wish, however many of whatever you wish and claim whatever you wish as a spouse, that spouse(s) and any offspring created, adopted or otherwise will be entitled to all of the possibilities of the entitlement state...there will be no limits(see France)
edumacation ....all education in America will be free, all colleges and universities will provide free education(have you seen the endowments???) to whoever wants education and enrollment will be determined by lottery...there will be no advantages to any individual requesting entry into any institution, all applicants, legal or illegal, will go into a hat and names will be drawn until the seats are filled...all student loans will be forgiven and none will be required going foreward
incomes ....all payrolls will be sent directly to the federal government where it will be determined and redistributed evenly based on the individual and whatever you've decided constitutes your family, this will truly be "from each according to their ability to each according to their need"...noone will  have an income advantage over another...the government will also place in a "lock box" the amounts calculated to get you through your retirement years which will begin for everyone regardless at age 55....maximum number of hours that any American may work during one 7 day period is 30....you will no longer have any worries over income tax, retirement saving and the like
euthanasia ...at whatever point the government decides that you are using more than your share of allotted medical resources as you age you will be required to take a happy ending pill, your family will recieve a bonus caluclated from the tremendous amount of money saved by the government thanks to your early exit...this will be considered the highest form of partiotism..    if you refuse, you will be determined to be mentally incompetent and the government will appoint someone to make the decision for you this one will probably be popular until it's your turn
immigration  anyone caught entering the country, legally or illegally will immediately be photographed, given a drivers license, EBT card, registered for every available government service and registerd to vote.....no need to bother with the whole becoming a citizen part anymore...it's passe'
marajuana and other fromerly illegal drugs ....these will all be covered and provided for under Obamacare for free
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					Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie  By the way, Scott was going around with his truck collecting  signs,  I'll guarantee Granny Warren would never be see doing manual labor like removing campaign signs from peoples lawns ! |  You mean doing the only job he can get in MA.
 
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