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[Piscator]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Like a friend of mine says, he never saw a fat person come out of a concentration camp.

Or boot camp.


We as a family eat very healthy. It costs so much more to eat healthy than not. The price of Fruits and Vegetables are insane. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it significantly costs more to eat healthy (unless you have a garden ).

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Piscator

Or boot camp.


We as a family eat very healthy. It costs so much more to eat healthy than not. The price of Fruits and Vegetables are insane. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it significantly costs more to eat healthy (unless you have a garden ).

That is exactly why you see fat, poor people. Look how much food you get per dollar when you buy a bag of Fritos versus when you buy fruit. High frutose corn syrup (and escalators)!

[Piscator]

Originally Posted by PaulS

That is exactly why you see fat, poor people. Look how much food you get per dollar when you buy a bag of Fritos versus when you buy fruit. High frutose corn syrup (and escalators)!

You see plenty of fat rich people too. Going out for a run or walk is free. It's also easy to do when you don't work.............

Bottom line is exercise, if you exercise, you will not be fat. You don't need to belong to a Gym to exercise.

[PaulS]

Fat rich people are eating the poor people.

I'm always shocked at the beginning of the year when my gym gets packed with new, heavy people. I always think to myself that they should just get out and walk for a few months until they start to get into shape instead of wasting their $ on a gym that they won't use after a month and even if they do stay at the gym, they won't get the full benefits b/c they're still out of shape.

It drives me crazy when I see a car waiting for the spot closest to the mall until the driver gets his packages in the car b/c they don't want to walk a few extra yards. I'll drive by and when I get to that parking spot the driver is still waiting for the spot to open up.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by PaulS

That is exactly why you see fat, poor people. Look how much food you get per dollar when you buy a bag of Fritos versus when you buy fruit. High frutose corn syrup (and escalators)!

We eat pretty darn well in my house. We also shop around sales and the seasons, make our own breads (about $1/loaf), make our own pasta (well under $1/lb), make our own tomato sauces, shop at farmers markets, focus our protein intake on beans/legumes, crock pot chili that has leftovers for a couple days and buy in bulk whenever possible. We average $50-70/week in food costs for two.

Does it take some time and planning? Sure does, but once we switched to mostly scratch cooking, we saved a ton of money on the food bill and we eat significantly better.

You know what else helps curb food costs.... Portion Control. Exercising portion control means that a dinner for four, actually feeds a family of four.

Like I said, it takes effort and planning. As politically incorrect as it is to say, the obese get obese because they typically live a sedentary lifestyle while eating garbage all day long with no considering to what they put in their body or how much.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

As politically incorrect as it is to say, the obese get obese because they typically live a sedentary lifestyle while eating garbage all day long with no considering to what they put in their body or how much.

It's politically incorrect because you really don't know why that person is obese to begin with. Yes, some are just lazy, but many others have health issues, depression or just funky DNA.

-spence

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by spence

It's politically incorrect because you really don't know why that person is obese to begin with. Yes, some are just lazy, but many others have health issues, depression or just funky DNA.

-spence

You must have missed (or decided to ignore) my previous post. Let's see what my talks with an endocrinologist resulted in:

"A friend is a Nurse Practitioner that specializes in endocrinology. I asked her how frequent fat people are fat due to "genetics" (ie. a thyroid problem. She said very few fat people that would come to her office excusing their obesity to overweight[that should have said "excusing their obesity to hormones"] actually had thyroid issues - she saw up to 20 people per day. Even still, if they did have thyroid problems, it would explain no more than 20-40lbs of extra weight.

As such, I don't buy the "it's genetic" excuse when people that are pushing 300lbs claim it's "not my fault". Thyroid issues didn't all of a sudden increase in the last 20 years, but laziness and a lack of personal accountability sure has."

Yes, some are just lazy, but many others have health issues, depression or just funky DNA.

Put another way for those that are 80+lbs overweight, "refuse to accept personal accountability." I sympathize for the *small minority* of people that do have a genetic issue, while at the same time, let's not set the rules for the majority based on a select few.

[justplugit]

If it's funky DNA, where did it come from when everybody was skinny
50 years ago? Ninety nine % of it comes from not taking personal responsibility for yourself.
Way to easy to blame DNA.

One of the first signs of depression is weight loss, while there is some weight
gain on some of the anti-depressants it can be managed with a proper diet.

Is it easy to exercise and eat the right food, no, but evertbody wants an instant
fix, some new diet craze or pill. People look for instant gratification, what they
need to avoid is instant potatoes.