Capt Bob Rochetta vs Albert McReynolds

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Flaptail

Question: If you charter a boat and Captain and you reel in a whopper of a fish, maybe even a record, is it really your ctach or the Captains?

Consider this while forming your opinion.

It's his boat.
It's his rod, reel, line and lure.
He put the boat on the spot, his mate let out the rod and lure to the prescribed length.
The rod sat in the holder until the fish hit.
You reeled it in.

Yours or really his?

Kind of a catch 22 here.It doesn't really matter about the gear, whenever you fish on someones boat and your on their spot I think you realize the fish was safe without the captains help putting you on the fish.Safe to say we have all been turned on to spots and caught someone else's fish. But you still CAUGHT the fish,regardless of the circumstances.

Another question. You are a charter captain;your sport is onto the floor so you dislodge the rig. Floor ends up being a big bass so you reel in the fish. Said fish gets weighed in for a season long tournament by the cap. Is it really the cap's fish?

[BassDawg]

Originally Posted by Flaptail

Question: If you charter a boat and Captain and you reel in a whopper of a fish, maybe even a record, is it really your ctach or the Captains?

Consider this while forming your opinion.

It's his boat.
It's his rod, reel, line and lure.
He put the boat on the spot, his mate let out the rod and lure to the prescribed length.
The rod sat in the holder until the fish hit.
You reeled it in.

Yours or really his?

The main variable in your premise that would allow one to claim this catch lies within the first two highlights. You charter the boat, you are paying the good Capt for his services and his knowledge, expertise, gear, and all the hands on deck. Not my idea of sport fishing and to me it is more like buying a feesh than learning a spot and putting in the moons and 1,000's of casts from the rocks. Still yet, the Capt has set his price and unless he is any good at providing his service, he won't be a Capt for very long. So I would say that it is the client's fish, bought and paid for.

It's kinda like the owner of a Restaraunt seeking the services of a Chef. He knows what type of cuisine he wants to serve (target Trophy stripers), he knows where he wants to serve or locate his cafe (along NE Striper Coast), and he knows how to cook (fishes alot) and how to eat (fishes a little) and will claim the menu and the glory everytime. His restaraunt, his equipment; the chef's knowledge, expertise, knives, and staff required to provide the food service (Captaining of a charter) that he is being paid quite handsomely for. The restrateur's food or the Chef's? Without the restrateur there is no Chef, or at least none at that time and at that place. Isn't a charter much the same?

Within the second highlight it is important to note that some folk are less involved than others. I don't think that Hemingway, or Teddy Baseball, or Charlie Cinto had to have their hands held.......................and surely they've boated their share of trophies. Basically, if it's yer butt in the seat and your mitts on the crank of the reel when that World Record hits the fiberglass, then that's your feesh ~imho.

This is good stuff, gentlemen and it's a great way to pass the wintry mixes........................
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[Skitterpop]

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[ridler72]

Plugging with a black over silver Rebel he hooked THE fish and fought it for one hour and forty minutes before it was beaten and he and Pat could pull it clear of the rocks.

1. From the time that a fish strikes or takes a bait or lure, the angler must hook, fight, and land or boat the fish without the aid of any other person, except as provided in these regulations

Attack the IGFA not the angler.

[Pete F.]

My fish stories always change a little bit with time.

[Saltheart]

The biggest striper ever caught was done sometime in the far past and it was tossed in with a whole pile of others.Don't know if it was a rod and reel fish , a boat net caught fish , etc. It was never submitted for "World record" status.

We call the "world record holder" the one who has his name in the IGFA book. So , did Al catch the biggest striper ever? probably not. Is he the "world record holder"? If you go by IGFA , he is and that's the end of the story.

[Rockfish9]

I hate politics, especialy when it comes to fishing.....it's kind of like tainting a sports record for alleged drug use, with out positive proof, of any "monkey buisness" it is what it is......IMHO, it's time to let it go.... I believe that in the next two or three years it will be broken again.. so none of it will matter.... each fish was grand in it's own fashion... let's enjoy it for what it is, two great catches of two extraordinary fish....
and Numby, that was a RIOT!

[Swimmer]

I hope I never catch an eighty pounder with only my brother or my friend with me. I am going to make sure I have my attornies, best boy, gaffer, two cameramen/women, and lastly God as a witness, or else I will just throw it back in the surf.

Better men than Al Mcreynolds have folded from the pressure of falsely claiming something to be his and wasn't.

And I wish Stezko's fish was the IGFA record holder, because he is a local boy.

[BassDawg]

Originally Posted by Swimmer

I hope I never catch an eighty pounder with only my brother or my friend with me. I am going to make sure I have my attornies, best boy, gaffer, two cameramen/women, and lastly God as a witness, or else I will just throw it back in the surf.

Better men than Al Mcreynolds have folded from the pressure of falsely claiming something to be his and wasn't.

And I wish Stezko's fish was the IGFA record holder, because he is a local boy.

That is some funny stuff Swimmer .

Very interesting....................the range of opinions on this "Record" seem to run the gambit.
I do recognize the McReynolds striper as the current IGFA top fish, however it does seem tainted and that is why the questionable status is so prevalent in a good portion of the respondent posts. As I stated earlier, had he swum her in unassisted ~to a man~ he would be hailed as the undisputed World Record Holder and be held in high esteem by us all.

I also believe that a Record of such high regard will be restored to its greatness within the next season or two, and hopefully she'll be landed within the shores of New England. Seems to be the Land of the Champeenships, lately..............why not the Land of the LAHHHHHGEST Large ??

[RIROCKHOUND]

Frankly who gives a %$%$%$%$? They are both great fish. One is recognized as the record, one isn't. Unless proof exists, Reynolds is the record holder; unless he was using steroids in the rebel and hgh to lube his Penn reel; then he gets an * next to his name.

[westhavendave]

Did the good Captain have a first mate assist him in landing the boat caught fish? If so, this whole argument is moot. Both anglers had assistance. And by the way this argument was settled already on these very forums in 2004, don't you remember FWW?

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