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View Poll Results: Capt Bob Rochetta vs Albert McReynolds
Yes, the IGFA got it right and McReynolds is "Tha Man" 17 32.69%
Nope, Capt Bob holds the legit unassisted record at 76# 6 11.54%
Why don't they have two categories surfcaught and boatcaught? 9 17.31%
Who gives a CRAP, I'm gonna best them both next summah!! 23 44.23%
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:41 AM   #1
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Question: If you charter a boat and Captain and you reel in a whopper of a fish, maybe even a record, is it really your ctach or the Captains?

Consider this while forming your opinion.

It's his boat.
It's his rod, reel, line and lure.
He put the boat on the spot, his mate let out the rod and lure to the prescribed length.
The rod sat in the holder until the fish hit.
You reeled it in.

Yours or really his?

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Old 12-17-2007, 10:45 AM   #2
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Question: If you charter a boat and Captain and you reel in a whopper of a fish, maybe even a record, is it really your ctach or the Captains?

Consider this while forming your opinion.

It's his boat.
It's his rod, reel, line and lure.
He put the boat on the spot, his mate let out the rod and lure to the prescribed length.
The rod sat in the holder until the fish hit.
You reeled it in.

Yours or really his?
Well, I can tell you what I do.

1. BYO rod and reel and rigs.
2. Hold your rig at all times.
3. You fight the fish.

It's your fish, but if it was a line-class record, you'd be pretty rude and selfish not to give the skipper some credit too.

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Old 12-17-2007, 01:38 PM   #3
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Question: If you charter a boat and Captain and you reel in a whopper of a fish, maybe even a record, is it really your ctach or the Captains?

Consider this while forming your opinion.

It's his boat.
It's his rod, reel, line and lure.
He put the boat on the spot, his mate let out the rod and lure to the prescribed length.
The rod sat in the holder until the fish hit.
You reeled it in.

Yours or really his?
Kind of a catch 22 here.It doesn't really matter about the gear, whenever you fish on someones boat and your on their spot I think you realize the fish was safe without the captains help putting you on the fish.Safe to say we have all been turned on to spots and caught someone else's fish. But you still CAUGHT the fish,regardless of the circumstances.

Another question. You are a charter captain;your sport is onto the floor so you dislodge the rig. Floor ends up being a big bass so you reel in the fish. Said fish gets weighed in for a season long tournament by the cap. Is it really the cap's fish?

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Old 12-17-2007, 11:14 PM   #4
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Question: If you charter a boat and Captain and you reel in a whopper of a fish, maybe even a record, is it really your ctach or the Captains?

Consider this while forming your opinion.

It's his boat.
It's his rod, reel, line and lure.
He put the boat on the spot, his mate let out the rod and lure to the prescribed length.
The rod sat in the holder until the fish hit.
You reeled it in.

Yours or really his?
The main variable in your premise that would allow one to claim this catch lies within the first two highlights. You charter the boat, you are paying the good Capt for his services and his knowledge, expertise, gear, and all the hands on deck. Not my idea of sport fishing and to me it is more like buying a feesh than learning a spot and putting in the moons and 1,000's of casts from the rocks. Still yet, the Capt has set his price and unless he is any good at providing his service, he won't be a Capt for very long. So I would say that it is the client's fish, bought and paid for.

It's kinda like the owner of a Restaraunt seeking the services of a Chef. He knows what type of cuisine he wants to serve (target Trophy stripers), he knows where he wants to serve or locate his cafe (along NE Striper Coast), and he knows how to cook (fishes alot) and how to eat (fishes a little) and will claim the menu and the glory everytime. His restaraunt, his equipment; the chef's knowledge, expertise, knives, and staff required to provide the food service (Captaining of a charter) that he is being paid quite handsomely for. The restrateur's food or the Chef's? Without the restrateur there is no Chef, or at least none at that time and at that place. Isn't a charter much the same?

Within the second highlight it is important to note that some folk are less involved than others. I don't think that Hemingway, or Teddy Baseball, or Charlie Cinto had to have their hands held.......................and surely they've boated their share of trophies. Basically, if it's yer butt in the seat and your mitts on the crank of the reel when that World Record hits the fiberglass, then that's your feesh ~imho.

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Old 12-17-2007, 11:43 PM   #5
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:16 AM   #6
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Plugging with a black over silver Rebel he hooked THE fish and fought it for one hour and forty minutes before it was beaten and he and Pat could pull it clear of the rocks.

1. From the time that a fish strikes or takes a bait or lure, the angler must hook, fight, and land or boat the fish without the aid of any other person, except as provided in these regulations

Attack the IGFA not the angler.

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Old 12-18-2007, 12:02 PM   #7
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Those are the rules as stated today...what were the rules as stated in 1982 when the fish was caught? IGFA only started maintaining the records as of 1978 so the rules and regs could have been different back then.

In most sports the rules and regs are ever evolving so there may not have been anything in the rules back then that spoke to somebody helping you land the fish.


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Plugging with a black over silver Rebel he hooked THE fish and fought it for one hour and forty minutes before it was beaten and he and Pat could pull it clear of the rocks.

1. From the time that a fish strikes or takes a bait or lure, the angler must hook, fight, and land or boat the fish without the aid of any other person, except as provided in these regulations

Attack the IGFA not the angler.

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