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11-24-2009, 12:01 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marshfield, MA
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$10.
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11-24-2009, 12:07 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
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You beat me to it. I was just about to post this, too. $10 isn't bad at all, especially if they use the money for what they say they are going to use it for.
"The revenue collected from the sale of the permits would pay for administrative costs, data collection, programs to improve public access for recreational fishing, better fisheries management."
I'm going to be open minded for now, but I wonder how much of the money collected will be going towards "administrative costs" and how much will go towards improving public access?
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11-24-2009, 12:12 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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I see Basic Patrick on the left
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11-24-2009, 12:17 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I see $10 more of my money being sucked up into the political and governmental vacuum!!! They suck!!  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!! 
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11-24-2009, 12:22 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hyde Park, MA
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As long as none of the money collected from licenses or received from the Government ends up in the State's pockets, I'm all for it.
....BUT the second one peeny of these funds ends up in the state's coffers, their ever popular "rainy day fund", then all bets are off.
You know that if the state were to run the fisheries dept like they run the state itself, we'd could walk to Europe across the bodies of all the dead fish and whales. But at least the seals would be saved!
Since the state has done nothing to promote or generate a healthy fisheries environment, they shouldn't get one damn penny.
The state has shown us nothing but how to piss away BILLIONS on useless pet projects and kickbacks.
Bottom line is that I will be watching to see/hear if the state tries to weasel their way into the money, and when they do, the gloves come off....and IT"S ON!
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11-24-2009, 12:28 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marshfield, MA
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It's only $10. If the money is used for what it is supposed to be used for then it is a good thing. I rather keep the money in state then have to pay for a federal permit @ $15-$25.....
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11-24-2009, 01:19 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Warwick
Posts: 541
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slingah
It's only $10. If the money is used for what it is supposed to be used for then it is a good thing. I rather keep the money in state then have to pay for a federal permit @ $15-$25.....
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I agree. Look at RI, no License, all the $$ will now leave the state. |
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11-27-2009, 05:08 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slingah
It's only $10. If the money is used for what it is supposed to be used for then it is a good thing. I rather keep the money in state then have to pay for a federal permit @ $15-$25.....
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Which is exactly what the nitwit RI Governor did..... defeated the RI license so we have to buy a federal permit in 2 years. |
No boat, back in the suds.  
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11-24-2009, 12:25 PM
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Uncle Rob
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Cheshire, CT>
Posts: 139
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$10.00
Don't grumble. In CT the Gov. went from $10.00 to $60.00and thats just for saltwater, all outhers have gone way beyond reach also.
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11-24-2009, 12:30 PM
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Night Stalker
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ............
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Rob
Don't grumble. In CT the Gov. went from $10.00 to $60.00and thats just for saltwater, all outhers have gone way beyond reach also.
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So we can look forward to that in 2011.   |
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11-24-2009, 12:30 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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10 for me......no big deal
10 for each of my grown kids......OK
10 for each of my kids' visiting friends from college who want to go fishing once...ugh
10 for the neighbor who would like to go out if the wind that am is not too much.........aaaaagh!
Will there be some kind of "take a friend fishing once" exemption? Or some kind of transferable multi-person option?
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11-24-2009, 12:36 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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How much will the fine be if you are caught without one?
Will I see any jail time??
Heck! Folks who are caught taking more than their share, caught with herring in their possession are punished less harshly I would bet!!!!!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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11-24-2009, 12:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Weymouth, MA Fore River
Posts: 1,258
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Larry -thats cause they play the "no speekee engli" card... |
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11-24-2009, 12:52 PM
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Marcia! Marcia! Marcia!
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Marshfield
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Exactly Larry. Not that I advocate breaking the law but how can they expect to enforce with such a limited force(officers) and lots of shoreline. I may roll the dice on registering. This is bull crap big time. It will go up every year mark my words and those funds will not be spent on what it should! Total BS!  |
"Sunshine Day Dream"
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11-24-2009, 01:09 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Weymouth, MA Fore River
Posts: 1,258
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Larry - I'm not happy about this so don't get me wrong - but you fish freshwater - do you buy a license for that or do you go rogue ?
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11-24-2009, 02:06 PM
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Ruled only by the tide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Truro
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
10 for me......no big deal
10 for each of my grown kids......OK
10 for each of my kids' visiting friends from college who want to go fishing once...ugh
10 for the neighbor who would like to go out if the wind that am is not too much.........aaaaagh!
Will there be some kind of "take a friend fishing once" exemption? Or some kind of transferable multi-person option?
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This is what is irritating me about this whole thing. |
Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.
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11-24-2009, 03:57 PM
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BuzzLuck
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brockton
Posts: 6,414
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
10 for me......no big deal
10 for each of my grown kids......OK
10 for each of my kids' visiting friends from college who want to go fishing once...ugh
10 for the neighbor who would like to go out if the wind that am is not too much.........aaaaagh!
Will there be some kind of "take a friend fishing once" exemption? Or some kind of transferable multi-person option?
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There should be a variant/possibility where the recreational "boat" buys 1-4 licenses good for the year which can be used to cover anyone coming on board for a friendly day of fishing. What kind of positive ID will be associated with each license? |
 Given the diversity of the human species, there is no “normal” human genome sequence. We are all mutants.
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11-24-2009, 04:03 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
10 for me......no big deal
10 for each of my grown kids......OK
10 for each of my kids' visiting friends from college who want to go fishing once...ugh
10 for the neighbor who would like to go out if the wind that am is not too much.........aaaaagh!
Will there be some kind of "take a friend fishing once" exemption? Or some kind of transferable multi-person option?
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What do they do with the fresh water license when situations like this arise? I now they have daily licenses in some areas. Maybe that will be an option, but what would the cost be? $10 for the year is still pretty reasonable compared to the fresh water license. |
Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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11-24-2009, 04:38 PM
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Wishin' for fishin'
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Brockton
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So when they call you up, what are you going to tell them ? I caught a couple ah cunners and a sculpin ? |
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11-25-2009, 09:43 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 210
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
10 for me......no big deal
10 for each of my grown kids......OK
10 for each of my kids' visiting friends from college who want to go fishing once...ugh
10 for the neighbor who would like to go out if the wind that am is not too much.........aaaaagh!
Will there be some kind of "take a friend fishing once" exemption? Or some kind of transferable multi-person option?
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From Senate Bill, No.2200
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(f) The director may designate not more than 2 days in each year as free recreational saltwater fishing days. A person may take saltwater finfish for noncommercial purposes on a free recreational saltwater fishing day without obtaining or possessing a permit or paying a permit fee as prescribed in this section; provided, however, that a person who takes saltwater finfish on a free recreational fishing day must comply with all laws, rules and regulations governing the holders of a recreational fishing permit and all other conditions and limitations regulating the taking of saltwater finfish.
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read it all right here...
http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/sena...02/st02200.htm
Old Goat...im sure they will incorporate a seal stamp which will require you to pay more in the following years since you may inadvertantly compete with the seals for the stripers and blues...seals have rights too you know.. |
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11-26-2009, 09:28 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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I took the day off from work and protested against this at the DMF 100 sallinstall building Boston when Phil Coates was the man .. seems like 15 yrs. ago maybe more . I use to go to those meetings where they say Bio Mass a bunch of times ?? well here it is .. Its all BS in my opinion .. hail the almighty $$$ .. Its money swimming around ,,not fish ,, soon as the numbers are up, so is the pressure to hammer the fish . They paint the picture to whatever suits thier needs . $$$ Politics ... my 2 cents
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11-26-2009, 10:18 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
Posts: 5,985
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No government has ever given anyone anything, governments are all about taking things and rights away from one group because another group makes a bigger noise. In this case, the only people who gain are the fish counters.
The only way to fight them is to organize, on the same page, write our representatives that's what they are you know, and vote, vote, vote. If they can't do our bidding or decide to represent other interests, then vote their arses out.
This license is just another fine example of our(the fisherman's) failure to do just that. It's so easy to call or e-mail your rep in Government. Didn't do it. You have to watch them closely, too. Sadly, time for bitching is over and time to pay up is here. It ain't gonna go back, but maybe we can keep increases reasonable.JMHO.
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11-24-2009, 01:51 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
Posts: 2,883
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Rob
Don't grumble. In CT the Gov. went from $10.00 to $60.00and thats just for saltwater, all outhers have gone way beyond reach also.
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I am pretty sure "all waters" will be $50 for the combo next year |
No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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11-24-2009, 12:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,945
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Beach Stickers, (in my town) used to be 5 bucks, (before that they was free, and before that they wasn 't needed) and the money was ear marked for Beach Management.... now it is 50 bucks for residents, buck eighty for no resident, and goes into the towns GF..and Beach Management has to fight for its funding like all other departments in town
Domino effect takes place..
FW license and it's "mandatory donation"...(now there is an Oxymoron for ya!)
Congrats..meybe.. time will tell....10 bucks, not bad for now...
Green Cops getting their budget slashed... how will this be enofrced???
I know more and more guys that FW fish (and fish pretty regular too) and don't bother getting the license and never get checked......
not trying to stir chit or cause trouble... just some observations....
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11-24-2009, 01:58 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mansfield
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Wait until you have to go to a Registry to get it..... $50.00 by 2012.... Eff Duval
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11-24-2009, 04:53 PM
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The Bawston Whalah
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 223
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Just another tax so one of Deval's Relatives has a job. Now does a MA Commercial permit cover ya..........
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11-25-2009, 01:10 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Burlington
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Comments are amazing..I wonder where all the above writers were when Patrick Parquet and the other political activists from MSBA - MBBA - and all the clubs were asking for comments and input on the FEDERAL mandate. I for one think we got the best we could get after much fighting and arguing. I don't like the fact we are getting hit with a fee to fish and am apprehensive about the future use of the funds, but this is NOT a State of Mass only mandate. Didn't RI legislature pass a similar bill only to have their Governor veto it ? That will make interesting reading next year.
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low & slow 37
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11-27-2009, 03:09 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 4,834
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In RI, where I would imagine the same Federal policy exists as in Ma., if you have a Fed HMS permit you do not need a state license.
I won't be getting a license nor will I ask anyone fishing on my boat to get one. I'm registered as far as I know.
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