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05-18-2017, 06:11 AM
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no one used the words "I" and "me" more than his predecessor...it's documented 
isn't lying under oath a crime? I think you can get up to 5 years...or a multi million dollar book deal |
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05-18-2017, 07:38 AM
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Yes - you have the Sloppy Narcissist, Trump following the Neat Narcissist, Obama.
I hate Trump. He is a shallow, reflexive person with a filter that alternates between good tactical and opticalrectumitis. I am starting to think his ego for running for President (job is harder than he thought) is to rub elbows with other world leaders - like the next level of his biz CEO contemporaries.
But he is filling a niche that has not been filled for sometime, a more moderate, Constitutional / Law-centric position (arguably at least where/when it does not apply to him).
Law: Borders
Customs: Lawful entry
Customs: Import fees (I'm seeing people paying more in import fees then ever before)
2A:
National Defense: resolving some budgeting wrongs (CR not only reduced money but had money restricted to wrong places)
I can't stand Trump but I am not convinced he is worse than Hillary
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Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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05-18-2017, 07:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Yes - you have the Sloppy Narcissist, Trump following the Neat Narcissist, Obama.
I hate Trump. He is a shallow, reflexive person with a filter that alternates between good tactical and opticalrectumitis. I am starting to think his ego for running for President (job is harder than he thought) is to rub elbows with other world leaders - like the next level of his biz CEO contemporaries.
But he is filling a niche that has not been filled for sometime, a more moderate, Constitutional / Law-centric position (arguably at least where/when it does not apply to him).
Law: Borders
Customs: Lawful entry
Customs: Import fees (I'm seeing people paying more in import fees then ever before)
2A:
National Defense: resolving some budgeting wrongs (CR not only reduced money but had money restricted to wrong places)
I can't stand Trump but I am not convinced he is worse than Hillary
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pretty much sums it up... |
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05-18-2017, 08:55 AM
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Quote:
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I can't stand Trump but I am not convinced he is worse than Hillary
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like I said before,
I'm not happy he won, But I'm happy as hell she didn't. |
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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05-18-2017, 09:25 AM
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Quote:
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Yes - you have the Sloppy Narcissist, Trump following the Neat Narcissist, Obama.
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THat is a good way of describing them - although I would add Trump is a serial liar. |
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05-18-2017, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
THat is a good way of describing them - although I would add Trump is a serial liar.
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And Obama wasn't ?
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05-18-2017, 10:46 AM
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And Obama wasn't ?
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I would ask you to put up a list of his lies and then I could put up a list of Trump's and we could compare the amount but I know you're going to respond with your typical response where you state you can't be bothered to back up your accusation. |
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05-18-2017, 10:47 AM
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And Obama wasn't ?
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His lying grew from ideology. Trump does not have an ideological cell in his body.
Either way DJT or HRC we were screwed. No good and evil here, just blehhck |
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05-18-2017, 12:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
His lying grew from ideology. Trump does not have an ideological cell in his body.
Either way DJT or HRC we were screwed. No good and evil here, just blehhck
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Not ttrue John, SCJ nominations alone are good enough for the win
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05-18-2017, 02:45 PM
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Not ttrue John, SCJ nominations alone are good enough for the win
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There is a lot reeking havoc on that balance at the moment. |
~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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05-18-2017, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
1st you fire Comey who was point on the Russian investigation who happen to just ask for more money?? The administration then says it was about Clinton emails were handled then Trump puts out a letter thanking Comey for telling him on multiple occasions He (Trump) wasn't the target of the investigation. (proper conversation?) with the recommendation of AG session (who recused himself fromRussian investigations) except here? then meets with the Russians (pre planned i am sure) but allows no American press in the room ??
we'll be told theirs nothing to see move along ...
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The decision to dump him was at least partly inspired by a memo written by the Deputy Attorney General, who was appointed by a right wing nut named Obama to be a US attorney. This man wrote a memo outlining why he thought Comey should have been fired.
When Comey announced he was re-opening the Hilary email scandal, everyone to the left of center demanded he be fired. Life is a funny old dog.
That said, it was a stupid time to fire him, the optics are awful. |
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05-18-2017, 02:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buckman
Not ttrue John, SCJ nominations alone are good enough for the win
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Agreed, getting Scalia replaced with someone similar, is so far, worth the formidable price we pay for Trump, IMHO. |
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05-18-2017, 03:08 PM
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His problem is he can't get out of his own way. He might accomplish much if he could keep his foot out of his mouth or his thumbs of the twitter keyboard long enough to focus on governing. He lives in the past and can't stand loosing even the most inconsequential battles.
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05-18-2017, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
His problem is he can't get out of his own way. He might accomplish much if he could keep his foot out of his mouth or his thumbs of the twitter keyboard long enough to focus on governing. He lives in the past and can't stand loosing even the most inconsequential battles.
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I agree. His style is making me cringe
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05-18-2017, 03:38 PM
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He is running out out of Road on the credibility Highway ...
just look at current approval ratings Most recent weekly average 38% May 8-14, 2017
Low point, three-day average 35% Mar 26-28, 2017
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05-18-2017, 04:27 PM
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I agree. His style is making me cringe
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Oh yeah....absolutely
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05-18-2017, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
He is running out out of Road on the credibility Highway ...
just look at current approval ratings Most recent weekly average 38% May 8-14, 2017
Low point, three-day average 35% Mar 26-28, 2017
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So it's going up 
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05-19-2017, 03:34 AM
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Trump has said the decision to appoint a special counsel to oversee the inquiry into Russian influence on his election is hurting America "terribly".
He told journalists on Thursday: "I respect the move, but the entire thing has been a witch hunt."
he wont stop
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05-19-2017, 07:26 AM
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he wont stop
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You and he have something in common. |
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05-19-2017, 08:37 AM
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Yes, lets talk about something important like whiney college students.
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05-19-2017, 09:55 AM
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Not all people are gifted with the ability to talk about more than one subject.
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05-19-2017, 10:27 AM
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Lester Holt referred to Roger Ailes as the "disgraced former FOX News Chief" this morning
I suspect that when Bill Clinton croaks he will likewise refer to Clinton and the "disgraced former US President and Commander-in -Chief "
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05-19-2017, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
Lester Holt referred to Roger Ailes as the "disgraced former FOX News Chief" this morning
I suspect that when Bill Clinton croaks he will likewise refer to Clinton and the "disgraced former US President and Commander-in -Chief "
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But Holt is merely whining. You have to understand that shutting down free speech and selectively throwing mud on your opposition is just whining and not worth the bother to talk about when there is far more important stuff like discussing the earth shaking gravity of possible collusion for which there is no evidence. |
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05-19-2017, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Trump has said the decision to appoint a special counsel to oversee the inquiry into Russian influence on his election is hurting America "terribly".
He told journalists on Thursday: "I respect the move, but the entire thing has been a witch hunt."
he wont stop
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that is because it IS |
The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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05-19-2017, 11:19 AM
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that is because it IS
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Yes, there has been no interactions w/the Russians and the Trump campaign 
Too bad the Trump admin. could not have sent someone to Andy's shootout. Andy could have taught them to shoot straight and not shoot themselves in the foot.
Last edited by PaulS; 05-19-2017 at 11:27 AM..
Reason: snarky comment
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05-19-2017, 01:34 PM
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Yes, there has been no interactions w/the Russians and the Trump campaign
Too bad the Trump admin. could not have sent someone to Andy's shootout. Andy could have taught them to shoot straight and not shoot themselves in the foot. |
If you have proof you better leak it now . So far we have seen nothing .
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05-19-2017, 01:37 PM
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Since it was a slow day politically this is what I did  |
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05-19-2017, 03:42 PM
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that is because it IS
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I said that about Benghazi and all the hearings and investigations by the R's showed that to be the case ..
and laid out my argument I dont see an argument laid out about how it has nothing to do with the russian but seems congress does but even that isn't enough
Not sure why the same standard of evidence is not required let the chips fall where they may . but i would guess you wouldn't accept the out come if it didn't match what you all ready think..
"I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Mr Trump told the Russian officials, the Times reported.
"I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off."
What a leader and people wonder why some are leaking " they must be trying to make America great again "
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05-19-2017, 03:51 PM
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[QUOTE=wdmso;1122286]I said that about Benghazi and all the hearings and investigations by the R's showed that to be the case ..
Not sure why the same standard of evidence is not required let the chips fall where they may . but i would guess you wouldn't accept the out come if it didn't match what you all ready think..
"I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Mr Trump told the Russian officials, the Times reported.
"I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off."
What a leader and people wonder why some are leaking " they must be trying to make America great again "[/QUOTE.
Well except that they blatantly lied on TV about it being a tape . There is that 🙄
You do know that the New York Times and Washington Post is not news right ? Rumors do not equate with evidence
You sound like one of those nut jobs that believes the "Enquirer" is true
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05-19-2017, 03:55 PM
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[QUOTE=buckman;1122289]
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Originally Posted by wdmso
I said that about Benghazi and all the hearings and investigations by the R's showed that to be the case ..
Not sure why the same standard of evidence is not required let the chips fall where they may . but i would guess you wouldn't accept the out come if it didn't match what you all ready think..
"I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Mr Trump told the Russian officials, the Times reported.
"I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off."
What a leader and people wonder why some are leaking " they must be trying to make America great again "[/QUOTE.
Well except that they blatantly lied on TV about it being a tape . There is that 🙄
You do know that the New York Times and Washington Post is not news right ? Rumors do not equate with evidence
You sound like one of those nut jobs that believes the "Enquirer" is true
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With that logic
Neither is Fox News.
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