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09-27-2008, 07:28 PM
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Registered User
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TOSSED
Today in the mail Sean Bradshaw received a letter from On The Water informing him he was being removed from the Striper Cup.In a show of solidarity Team Striper will most likely withdraw from the Cup.
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09-27-2008, 07:33 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Why. Did he fail a lie detector test or something?
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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09-27-2008, 07:35 PM
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Registered User
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Posts: 8,718
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No, apparently the newspaper article was conclusive enough for OTW to DQ the young lad.
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09-27-2008, 07:36 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
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what newspaper article?
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09-27-2008, 07:39 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
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09-27-2008, 07:50 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Today in the mail Sean Bradshaw received a letter from On The Water informing him he was being removed from the Striper Cup.In a show of solidarity Team Striper will most likely withdraw from the Cup.
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A show of solidarity for what????? That is ridiculous.
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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09-27-2008, 07:53 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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So....Team S-B wins? 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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09-27-2008, 07:55 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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kind of looks like it if they withdraw the team. Why they would do that I have no idea. Probably be an * after it though. IMO not worth it if you don't do it yourself,others may think differently.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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09-27-2008, 07:58 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Bradshaw has a 51 from a boat.....subtract that from the score and add the next largest fish they have and probably not enough to win! Striper Cup Fest should be quite interesting! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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09-27-2008, 08:02 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Oh....and a big KUDOS to OTW for dropping the bum!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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09-27-2008, 08:15 PM
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Hunting for a 40
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
Oh....and a big KUDOS to OTW for dropping the bum!
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Without a doubt.
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09-27-2008, 08:29 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
Bradshaw has a 51 from a boat.....subtract that from the score and add the next largest fish they have and probably not enough to win! Striper Cup Fest should be quite interesting! 
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Larry--they're ahead of us by something like 25-30 points. I guarantee you that their 11th place fish is mid to high 40s, minimum.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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09-27-2008, 08:36 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Why would they withdraw??? Just because of 1 bad apple in the barrel? 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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09-27-2008, 09:26 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
Why would they withdraw??? Just because of 1 bad apple in the barrel? 
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If I had to try to be a mind reader, maybe because they feel that OTW pre-judged guilt without a court adjudication. If my memory is correct, they waited unti Major's case was heard in Edgartown District Court until they tossed him.
Not that my opinion matters much, but I think withdrawing on their part is ill advised. While some might understand the rationale if it is as I guessed, many others would view it as showing solidarity with a poacher. If they want to have Bradshaw up on the stage accepting the Cup with the rest of their team, that's their prerogative.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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09-27-2008, 08:40 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 50
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Oh thou doest protest to much!
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09-27-2008, 08:56 PM
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Eels
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cape Cod,MA.
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Good things come to those who deserve it,& some get what they deserve.
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Live bait sharp hooks and timing is all you need
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09-27-2008, 09:01 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Whitman,Ma.
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Hummmmm..Interesting
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I'm going where I'm going...
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09-27-2008, 09:11 PM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,953
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striper cup should be INDIVIDUAL...or two-man at the most... not teams...
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09-27-2008, 09:27 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 132
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well i hope the court system feels the same way OTW does. im looking forward to Striper Fest more now to see the outcome of everything.
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09-28-2008, 03:39 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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Obviously, from the report of the RI/CT environmental people, and I suspect that they do not do these things half assed, and given the amount of Bass the paocher had, his ass should get tossed and if "Team Striper" goes out in solidarity with this poacher, then others from that team probably had knowledge of what he was doing as well.
The whole team should withdraw, if they don't there will always be a shadow of doubt as to the legality of the taking the Cup on thier part, accomplices or not to the acts of this loser.
It would actually be too bad if they don't as it will dampen the enthusiasm of the legitimate contestants for further participation.
OTW did the right thing in this case especially given the closeness of the end of the tourney, they had to act.
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Why even try.........
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09-28-2008, 06:45 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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this is like spy gate
with the New England Patriots
and then you say... "well, who knew" 
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09-28-2008, 06:56 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Yeah like I need to wait to see if he is guilty? Explain to me why he had all that bass at his home?? Guilty! Next case!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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09-28-2008, 01:11 PM
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Plug Builder in Training
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: wareham MA
Posts: 4,046
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This may be closer than you guys think. I was just on the OTW site and the boss man's 39Lb =46.8LBS fish has not been added to the totals yet. This will be very close
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09-28-2008, 01:22 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I was thinking the same thing Mike......and they will not update the last week as they probably want a little mystery. Usually updates were done on Fridays!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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09-28-2008, 01:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: RI
Posts: 5,705
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Man I was on the fence about signing up for the Cup.Now I'm glad I didn't.
Tournies for charity like the Chris Potts or Hab's are what its all about.The only winners are the families of those who died way before their time.
Anybody who has thought about fishing a competitive tournament will think twice after reading this thread.
After seeing the responses in this thread I'll never sign up for the Striper Cup ever again.
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09-28-2008, 08:36 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaptail
Obviously, from the report of the RI/CT environmental people, and I suspect that they do not do these things half assed, and given the amount of Bass the paocher had, his ass should get tossed and if "Team Striper" goes out in solidarity with this poacher, then others from that team probably had knowledge of what he was doing as well.
The whole team should withdraw, if they don't there will always be a shadow of doubt as to the legality of the taking the Cup on thier part, accomplices or not to the acts of this loser.
It would actually be too bad if they don't as it will dampen the enthusiasm of the legitimate contestants for further participation.
OTW did the right thing in this case especially given the closeness of the end of the tourney, they had to act.
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Maybe the rest of the team was fishing on the same boat. Umm?
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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09-28-2008, 09:15 AM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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Chris,
I find it hard to swallow some of your comments from atop the fence. You are a worthy monthly winner with your shore 44# for the month of May. And you offer to be willing to take a polygraph test as a one of the winners with a significant prize at stake. Clearly Team Striper should be proud to have you on their team.
Yet, you then go muddy the waters with talk of a potential team withdrawal in the name of "solidarity" with a team member 'accused' of breaching the laws, even when the charges were made after the Cup ended. And the comments relating to rumors about last year's tournament and the winners are news to me, and appear to be a smokescreen to direct attention away from the "poaching" subject.
On the Fall fishing thread, you said you were 'only able to manage a 37#' fish the previous night... Do you realize how many anglers only dream of fish in that class???
Sit back and enjoy what is to come your way. You earned it. If there is to be a statement/decision from the team, let the 'captain' make it. I would much rather see you up on stage as a humble, deserving winner rather than a lightning rod tied to the poaching incident.
Congrats to your team, and best wishes for getting the right key. I'll look forward to seeing you there.
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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09-28-2008, 09:17 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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Again, to lie detector everyone is not possible dollar wise.OTW doesn't even offer subscriptions for a weekly prize so I wouldn't hold my breath for them to spend big bucks for a lie detector test.In their defense they have offerred to reinstate Sean if he takes and passes a test.
If I had sour grapes regarding the outcome of last years tournament I guess I would have spoken up then. In the past I have discussed these allegations with S-B members but decided it was better to keep quiet. It is still my belief there should be seperate divisions for boat and shore but obviously even that type of rhetoric hits a nerve. I have alredy been told not to drink from the Cup this year because of some members less than charming antics (potty?)regarding said cup. I'm sure the boss knew nothing of that also but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.BTW, I am fishing the Back Eddy tournament in October. It is an open tournament and I feel confident I can compete vs. the boat guys without a handicap system.
Last edited by Sea Dangles; 09-28-2008 at 09:23 AM..
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09-28-2008, 09:26 AM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
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I have alredy been told not to drink from the Cup this year because of some members less than charming antics (potty?)regarding said cup. I'm sure the boss knew nothing of that also but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Are u serious, or are you further spreading rumors?
Maybe you should keep this stuff factual, ie: stuff you saw, or were involved in. Speculation, rumors, lies, and innuendo are just that
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
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09-28-2008, 08:02 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: cape cod when my meds r workin right
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Today in the mail Sean Bradshaw received a letter from On The Water informing him he was being removed from the Striper Cup.In a show of solidarity Team Striper will most likely withdraw from the Cup.
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imo.... they all should....u cant tell me that his actions and evidence are above suspicion ???? as well a his closes friends didnt know .....if so i got a bridge to sell you cheap........otw did the propper action. thats what happen to your good name and honor ,sold out for the buck.$$$$$$$$$$ dave
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