Stacey Abrams running for governor again

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Life is so simple in your world.
It turns out that George Carlin was right, women are just brood mares for the state, or are they as one politician said this week, vessels.

Have you ever known a woman who carried a baby to term and then gave it up for adoption?
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“women are just brood
mares.”

there you go again, losing the debate so claiming i said something i never said.

i don’t think women have the right to
murder babies, and i consider that a human baby.

why are so many millions of women opposed to abortion? they’re all self
loathing masochists? all
of them? amy barrett is an idiot who advocates for her own enslavement?

i know one woman ( she was only 18) who carried a baby to term and gave it up for adoption. i don’t know why it’s relevant whether or
not i know someone who did so, but i do. carrying a baby to delivery isn’t trivial, but it’s not a huge deal for
most healthy women, either. it’s a whole lot less permanently invasive for the mom, than an abortion is for
the baby, that’s for sure.

my brother and sister in law also adopted three kids from russia. they couldnt have kids, so they adopted three.
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[Got Stripers]

Jim I’m curious if your daughter or a family members daughter is raped by the evil uncle or a first date gone horribly wrong, is it your belief she should be forced to carry to term? So your daughter or a close friends gets married and in her first pregnancy, it’s determined there is a high likelihood the baby with serious abnormalities and irreversible health issues will likely not be viable if carried to term, in your belief system and both scenarios your daughter needs to carry to term regardless of the health risks. Sorry for the young girl or women in either case. What if the girl is 13 at the time, still forcing her to carry to term Jim? Fuc*ed up is all I can say, I’m 100% behind a women being able to decide what course she takes.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Jim I’m curious if your or a family members daughter is raped by the evil uncle or a first date gone horribly wrong, is it your belief she should be forced to carry to term? So your daughter or a close friends gets married and in her first pregnancy, it’s determined there is a high likelihood the baby with serious abnormalities and irreversible health issues will likely not be viable if carried to term, in your belief system, in both scenarios your daughter needs to carry to term regardless of the health risks. Sorry for the young girl or women in either case. What if the girl is 13 at the time, still forcing her to carry to term Jim? Fuc*ed up is all I can say, I’m 100% behind a women being able to decide what course she takes.

that’s a fair question.

before roe v wade, abortion was legal in the cases of rape and incest and when the life of the mom is in danger. i’d happily go back
to that.

abortions on rape victims are also rare, the vast majority of abortions are retroactive birth control for women who engaged in consensual sex.

so a law that only allowed abortions for rape, incest, and when the life of the mom is actually at risk, would
eliminate a huge percentage of abortions.

i see very big differences between a rape victim and someone who got pregnant from consensual
sex. i can’t imagine anyone going through that.

but if you think a baby is a human being at conception, the circumstances surrounding the conception don’t really matter that from the baby’s perspective. so i’d hope that rape victims
would somehow find it in them to give it up for adoption, but of
course that’s easy for me to say, having never been through that.

but again, i’d be very happy to return to pre roe v wade.

that’s a VERY fair and challenging question. but it also addresses a tiny percentage of abortions.

as far as abnormalities go, i don’t think people who weren’t born as lucky as you and i were, are any less human than we are, i don’t make those distinctions. killing people who have abnormalities sounds very Third Reich to me. i have a child with very slight special
needs, nothing too serious. It never occurred to me to chop him up in order to make my life easier. “God don’t make no junk”, as the expression goes.

i think the huge, huge majority of the pro life crowd would carve out exceptions for rape.


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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Jim I’m curious if your daughter or a family members daughter is raped by the evil uncle or a first date gone horribly wrong, is it your belief she should be forced to carry to term? So your daughter or a close friends gets married and in her first pregnancy, it’s determined there is a high likelihood the baby with serious abnormalities and irreversible health issues will likely not be viable if carried to term, in your belief system and both scenarios your daughter needs to carry to term regardless of the health risks. Sorry for the young girl or women in either case. What if the girl is 13 at the time, still forcing her to carry to term Jim? Fuc*ed up is all I can say, I’m 100% behind a women being able to decide what course she takes.

do you believe all women have that right, right up until the baby is out of the womb?

you pointed to an extreme scenario, so allow me to as well. healthy mom, consensual
sex, healthy baby, full term, mom decides she wants a 9th month abortion. you’re ok with that?


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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

do you believe all women have that right, right up until the baby is out of the womb?

you pointed to an extreme scenario, so allow me to as well. healthy mom, consensual
sex, healthy baby, full term, mom decides she wants a 9th month abortion. you’re ok with that?


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No I don’t and most probably agree, if you have carried to term, you have basically already made that decision. Certainly in the early stages and certainly under the circumstances I detailed, I think it’s a women's choice not the governments. By extension, your standards and believe system shouldn’t be forced on anyone. A lot of young girls get pregnant and don’t know it until a lot of these proposed laws would outlaw abortion, I see no reason to force a young girl to carry to term due to a rape or a date going to far.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

No I don’t and most probably agree, if you have carried to term, you have basically already made that decision. Certainly in the early stages and certainly under the circumstances I detailed, I think it’s a women's choice not the governments. By extension, your standards and believe system shouldn’t be forced on anyone. A lot of young girls get pregnant and don’t know it until a lot of these proposed laws would outlaw abortion, I see no reason to force a young girl to carry to term due to a rape or a date going to far.

every single criminal law forces someone’s standards onto the rest of us, doesn’t it?
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[wdmso]

The 17-19 May national poll found that 53% of Republicans believe Trump, their party’s nominee, is the “true president” now, compared with 3% of Democrats and 25% of all Americans.

About one-quarter of adults falsely believe the 3 November election was tainted by illegal voting, including 56% of Republicans,

How many liberals think GA was stolen NONE

I acknowledge that former Secretary of State Brian Kemp will be certified as the victor in the 2018 gubernatorial election,

Still waiting on you know who to concede


Jims evidence an Instagram post

Stacy (sic) Abrams had the governorship of Georgia stolen from her by a corrupt Secretary of State who abused his office to suppress the vote and hand himself the election,” the Instagram post by liberal account The Other 98% reads. “What did she do? She rolled up her sleeves, registered 800,000 new voters and is about to flip her state blue.”


It’s odd Jim you question vote counting changing over night and mail in ballots

But questing Georgia’s secretary of state. As secretary of state, Kemp who was in charge of running the state’s elections. While running for the office of Governor

, he trimmed more than 1.4 million inactive voters, with low-income and minority Georgians most likely to have their registrations canceled, according to the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Over 668,000 of those registrations were canceled in 2017. In the lead-up to the 2018 election, Georgia put 53,000 voter registrations on hold, the majority of them Black voters, for additional screening.

Yes the law allowed him to do so ..but the optics .. that is the behavior Abrams protested against .

So when you can show that she sued in court to have votes thrown out or a phone call of her asking for anyone to find 55,001 votes so she can win

The 2 are not remotely the same as you insist , even after page after page of evidence which shows she concedes the election to Kemp. Abrams maintains that the 2018 Georgia election process was not fair (Not stolen)

And from your Ted cruise committee questions. You left out this committee statement .. The committee wrote that despite that, it learned “new, concerning information” about voter suppression in Georgia. After removing more than 500,000 voters from rolls – perhaps the largest single cancellation of voter registrations in U.S. history, said

but I get it… how dare a black women question the actions of a white dude in a state who’s racial past isn’t that far in the past…. But it’s ok for Trump to try to overturn a National election .. Americans are still waiting on Trumps and Rudy’s and the kraken and the pillow guys evidence

But but Abrams and classic conservatives tactic Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty.“
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The 17-19 May national poll found that 53% of Republicans believe Trump, their party’s nominee, is the “true president” now, compared with 3% of Democrats and 25% of all Americans.

About one-quarter of adults falsely believe the 3 November election was tainted by illegal voting, including 56% of Republicans,

How many liberals think GA was stolen NONE

I acknowledge that former Secretary of State Brian Kemp will be certified as the victor in the 2018 gubernatorial election,

Still waiting on you know who to concede


Jims evidence an Instagram post

Stacy (sic) Abrams had the governorship of Georgia stolen from her by a corrupt Secretary of State who abused his office to suppress the vote and hand himself the election,” the Instagram post by liberal account The Other 98% reads. “What did she do? She rolled up her sleeves, registered 800,000 new voters and is about to flip her state blue.”


It’s odd Jim you question vote counting changing over night and mail in ballots

But questing Georgia’s secretary of state. As secretary of state, Kemp who was in charge of running the state’s elections. While running for the office of Governor

, he trimmed more than 1.4 million inactive voters, with low-income and minority Georgians most likely to have their registrations canceled, according to the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Over 668,000 of those registrations were canceled in 2017. In the lead-up to the 2018 election, Georgia put 53,000 voter registrations on hold, the majority of them Black voters, for additional screening.

Yes the law allowed him to do so ..but the optics .. that is the behavior Abrams protested against .

So when you can show that she sued in court to have votes thrown out or a phone call of her asking for anyone to find 55,001 votes so she can win

The 2 are not remotely the same as you insist , even after page after page of evidence which shows she concedes the election to Kemp. Abrams maintains that the 2018 Georgia election process was not fair (Not stolen)

And from your Ted cruise committee questions. You left out this committee statement .. The committee wrote that despite that, it learned “new, concerning information” about voter suppression in Georgia. After removing more than 500,000 voters from rolls – perhaps the largest single cancellation of voter registrations in U.S. history, said

but I get it… how dare a black women question the actions of a white dude in a state who’s racial past isn’t that far in the past…. But it’s ok for Trump to try to overturn a National election .. Americans are still waiting on Trumps and Rudy’s and the kraken and the pillow guys evidence

But but Abrams and classic conservatives tactic Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty.“
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"How many liberals think GA was stolen NONE "

Just because you say no one believes Abrams, doesn't make it so. I have seen the polling that an embarassing number of republicans think the election was stolen. I haven't seen any polling on how many Georgians believe Abrams. Neither have you. Yet you state no one believes her. You are making that up.

You just make up and fabricate what helps your case. You denied that Abrams said the election was stolen, even after I posted video of her saying exactly that Abrams is popular and mainstream and influential on the left, even though she is perpetuating the same lie that you attack Trump for telling. You don't care about spreading that lie, only when Republicans do it.

You care to be angered at people who don't get the vaccine. Trump is encouraging people to get vaccinated, Harris went on TV and said she would refuse to take any vaccine that came under the Trump administration. Yet you can't criticize Harris for encouraging people not to get vaccinated, she's a democrat, that's all that maters to you.


"Jims evidence an Instagram post"

You are very, very dishonest. My evidence was Abrams speaking in front of the US Senate on video, where she said it was stolen.

She's on video saying it, and you are still denying she said it. Amazing.

Every single voter that was trimmed from those voting rolls, every single one, still had the right to vote in that gubernatorial election. That is a fact.

And voter turnout, even among blacks, was very high.
Just watch the video, Wayne. The facts are there. Abrams doesn't deny the facts.

"how dare a black women question the actions of a white dude"

The last, pathetic, desperate act of a liberal moron who knows he lost the argument but can't admit a democrat can be wrong.

She's on video saying it was "stolen". But you deny she said it was stolen. That's rational.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

and the pillow guys evidence

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those pillows are on deep discount and would make a tremendous Christmas gift for your loved ones...I bet you can get some at the Let's Go Brandon Store

[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by scottw

those pillows are on deep discount and would make a tremendous Christmas gift for your loved ones...I bet you can get some at the Let's Go Brandon Store

I was in the Lets Go Brandon store in North Attleboro late day Saturday.
Didn’t see any pillows.
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[Jim in CT]

WDMSO:

"Stacey Abrams never said it was stolen, even though Jim posted a video where she told the US Senate it "was stolen". "

"NO ONE (even in caps for emphasis) in Georgia believes it was stolen. Anyway, it was stolen, because the white secretary of state stole it." - so which is it, was it stolen, or was it not stolen?

"64% of blacks aren't fully vaccinated, I bet those are the blacks who are Republicans"

"Republicans aren't getting vaccinated because of the immensely popular and influential person known as Bigtree".

That's some flawless logic there. Flawless.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

WDMSO:

"Stacey Abrams never said it was stolen, even though Jim posted a video where she told the US Senate it "was stolen". "

"NO ONE (even in caps for emphasis) in Georgia believes it was stolen. Anyway, it was stolen, because the white secretary of state stole it." - so which is it, was it stolen, or was it not stolen?

"64% of blacks aren't fully vaccinated, I bet those are the blacks who are Republicans"

"Republicans aren't getting vaccinated because of the immensely popular and influential person known as Bigtree".

That's some flawless logic there. Flawless.

Who you love making stuff up!

Why do you take actual stories with links .. then insert your own interpretation…. With out reading the article


Maybe you get your info from Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick’s claim that, “in most states,” Black residents are “the biggest group” of unvaccinated people.

He then added: “Well, the biggest group in most states are African Americans who have not been vaccinated. The last time I checked, over 90% of them vote for Democrats in their major cities and major counties.”

However, there is no support for the claim that Black people are the “biggest group” of people who have yet to get a shot.

a nonpartisan, health-issues organization, reported that across 40 states with comparable data as of Aug. 16, the percentage of people who had received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine was 50% for whites, 45% for Hispanics and 40% for Blacks. Because Blacks (41.1 million) and Hispanics (62.1 million) make up a much smaller portion of the overall U.S. population than whites (204.3 million), those percentages indicate that, in raw numbers, far more white people remain unvaccinated against the disease.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/sc...-black-people/

I know fact-checking sites are fake
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[scottw]

in a recent poll it was shown that vaccinated republicans are likely to get vaccinated and then just go live their lives...

whereas...

vaccinated democrats were 100 times more likely to get vaccinated and then never shut the %ucK up about it

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by scottw

in a recent poll it was shown that vaccinated republicans are likely to get vaccinated and then just go live their lives...

whereas...

vaccinated democrats were 100 times more likely to get vaccinated and then never shut the %ucK up about it

They’re the new Vegans
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Who you love making stuff up!

Why do you take actual stories with links .. then insert your own interpretation…. With out reading the article


Maybe you get your info from Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick’s claim that, “in most states,” Black residents are “the biggest group” of unvaccinated people.

He then added: “Well, the biggest group in most states are African Americans who have not been vaccinated. The last time I checked, over 90% of them vote for Democrats in their major cities and major counties.”

However, there is no support for the claim that Black people are the “biggest group” of people who have yet to get a shot.

a nonpartisan, health-issues organization, reported that across 40 states with comparable data as of Aug. 16, the percentage of people who had received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine was 50% for whites, 45% for Hispanics and 40% for Blacks. Because Blacks (41.1 million) and Hispanics (62.1 million) make up a much smaller portion of the overall U.S. population than whites (204.3 million), those percentages indicate that, in raw numbers, far more white people remain unvaccinated against the disease.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/sc...-black-people/

I know fact-checking sites are fake
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I majored in math. I know (and never said or implied otherwise) that there are more unvaccinated white people than blacks. Lots more.

What I said (and I'm 100% correct) is that if you look at vaccination rates (do you know what a "rate" is? It's not clear that you do) by race, blacks have the very lowest vaccination rate of any race.

A 'rate' isn't the raw number that are unvaccinated, it's not the count of how many. it's the percentage that are unvaccinated. More than 60% of blacks aren't fully vaccinated. You said very clearly, those are blacks who are republicans, which is hysterical, because you also love to point out that there are so few blacks who are republicans.

If very few blacks are republicans (which is true), and 60% of blacks are not fully vaccinated (which is also true), how can you say the majority of unvaccinated blacks are republicans? How does that make any sense at all?

You also felt qualified to speculate on why so many republicans choose not to get vaccinated. Fine. Since you're the resident expert on why certain groups choose not to get vaccinated, please speculate as to why a high rate (again, that means a high percentage, not a high raw number) of blacks aren't getting vaccinated.

Jim: blacks have the highest rate of people who aren't vaccinated.

WDMSO: Jim is an idiot! He says there are more black people than white people!

Problem is, I never, ever came close to saying that.

[Pete F.]

Donald Trump helped elect two Democratic Senators in Georgia last year.

Now, he is going to help elect a Democratic Governor in Georgia next year.
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[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Donald Trump helped elect two Democratic Senators in Georgia last year.

Now, he is going to help elect a Democratic Governor in Georgia next year.
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No
In Dimensia Joe’s own words.


https://youtu.be/WGRnhBmHYN0
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[Pete F.]

Backed by Donald Trump, former Sen. Perdue plans to primary Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp by releasing a video message & filing his paperwork, as early as Monday.

And it's always a good time to bring up that David Perdue, Kelly Loeffler, Richard Burr, Ron Johnson, Dan Crenshaw, Jim Inhofe committed insider trading at the start of the pandemic in March 2020. That should never disappear.

[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Backed by Donald Trump, former Sen. Perdue plans to primary Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp by releasing a video message & filing his paperwork, as early as Monday.

And it's always a good time to bring up that David Perdue, Kelly Loeffler, Richard Burr, Ron Johnson, Dan Crenshaw, Jim Inhofe committed insider trading at the start of the pandemic in March 2020. That should never disappear.

https://youtu.be/WGRnhBmHYN0
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