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Old 12-05-2021, 03:56 PM   #1
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Jim I’m curious if your daughter or a family members daughter is raped by the evil uncle or a first date gone horribly wrong, is it your belief she should be forced to carry to term? So your daughter or a close friends gets married and in her first pregnancy, it’s determined there is a high likelihood the baby with serious abnormalities and irreversible health issues will likely not be viable if carried to term, in your belief system and both scenarios your daughter needs to carry to term regardless of the health risks. Sorry for the young girl or women in either case. What if the girl is 13 at the time, still forcing her to carry to term Jim? Fuc*ed up is all I can say, I’m 100% behind a women being able to decide what course she takes.
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Old 12-05-2021, 04:01 PM   #2
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Jim I’m curious if your or a family members daughter is raped by the evil uncle or a first date gone horribly wrong, is it your belief she should be forced to carry to term? So your daughter or a close friends gets married and in her first pregnancy, it’s determined there is a high likelihood the baby with serious abnormalities and irreversible health issues will likely not be viable if carried to term, in your belief system, in both scenarios your daughter needs to carry to term regardless of the health risks. Sorry for the young girl or women in either case. What if the girl is 13 at the time, still forcing her to carry to term Jim? Fuc*ed up is all I can say, I’m 100% behind a women being able to decide what course she takes.
that’s a fair question.

before roe v wade, abortion was legal in the cases of rape and incest and when the life of the mom is in danger. i’d happily go back
to that.

abortions on rape victims are also rare, the vast majority of abortions are retroactive birth control for women who engaged in consensual sex.

so a law that only allowed abortions for rape, incest, and when the life of the mom is actually at risk, would
eliminate a huge percentage of abortions.

i see very big differences between a rape victim and someone who got pregnant from consensual
sex. i can’t imagine anyone going through that.

but if you think a baby is a human being at conception, the circumstances surrounding the conception don’t really matter that from the baby’s perspective. so i’d hope that rape victims
would somehow find it in them to give it up for adoption, but of
course that’s easy for me to say, having never been through that.

but again, i’d be very happy to return to pre roe v wade.

that’s a VERY fair and challenging question. but it also addresses a tiny percentage of abortions.

as far as abnormalities go, i don’t think people who weren’t born as lucky as you and i were, are any less human than we are, i don’t make those distinctions. killing people who have abnormalities sounds very Third Reich to me. i have a child with very slight special
needs, nothing too serious. It never occurred to me to chop him up in order to make my life easier. “God don’t make no junk”, as the expression goes.

i think the huge, huge majority of the pro life crowd would carve out exceptions for rape.


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Jim I’m curious if your daughter or a family members daughter is raped by the evil uncle or a first date gone horribly wrong, is it your belief she should be forced to carry to term? So your daughter or a close friends gets married and in her first pregnancy, it’s determined there is a high likelihood the baby with serious abnormalities and irreversible health issues will likely not be viable if carried to term, in your belief system and both scenarios your daughter needs to carry to term regardless of the health risks. Sorry for the young girl or women in either case. What if the girl is 13 at the time, still forcing her to carry to term Jim? Fuc*ed up is all I can say, I’m 100% behind a women being able to decide what course she takes.
do you believe all women have that right, right up until the baby is out of the womb?

you pointed to an extreme scenario, so allow me to as well. healthy mom, consensual
sex, healthy baby, full term, mom decides she wants a 9th month abortion. you’re ok with that?


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do you believe all women have that right, right up until the baby is out of the womb?

you pointed to an extreme scenario, so allow me to as well. healthy mom, consensual
sex, healthy baby, full term, mom decides she wants a 9th month abortion. you’re ok with that?


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No I don’t and most probably agree, if you have carried to term, you have basically already made that decision. Certainly in the early stages and certainly under the circumstances I detailed, I think it’s a women's choice not the governments. By extension, your standards and believe system shouldn’t be forced on anyone. A lot of young girls get pregnant and don’t know it until a lot of these proposed laws would outlaw abortion, I see no reason to force a young girl to carry to term due to a rape or a date going to far.
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No I don’t and most probably agree, if you have carried to term, you have basically already made that decision. Certainly in the early stages and certainly under the circumstances I detailed, I think it’s a women's choice not the governments. By extension, your standards and believe system shouldn’t be forced on anyone. A lot of young girls get pregnant and don’t know it until a lot of these proposed laws would outlaw abortion, I see no reason to force a young girl to carry to term due to a rape or a date going to far.
every single criminal law forces someone’s standards onto the rest of us, doesn’t it?
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