Whole Foods = Holes in head - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

fishsmith · 06-16-2006, 04:04 PM

I just read this in the globe, these people are nuts, it's ok to get the meat and poultry from the humane slaughterhouses, but fresh lobster is unethical.

"Ultimately, Whole Foods management decided to immediately stop selling live lobsters and soft-shell crabs, saying they could not ensure the creatures are treated with respect and compassion.

"We place as much emphasis on the importance of humane treatment and quality of life for all animals as we do on the expectations for quality and flavor," John Mackey, Whole Foods' co-founder and chief executive, said in a statement."

CAL · 06-16-2006, 04:23 PM

Weirdos. Don't want to treat lobsters inhumanely now do we. Geez, they can rip their own claws off, I don't think they feel too much pain.

I heard a guy on the radio today, said that if you get hired there 30 days later your co-workers vote on whether you get to stay, like a reality tv show.

spence · 06-16-2006, 04:42 PM

Is there anyone on this site that's bought a lobster at WholeFoods anyway ???

Regardless, be very thankful there are animal rights wackos out there, they actually have done a lot to improve farming conditions that have led to better quality products for all of us.

-spence

Mike P · 06-16-2006, 04:44 PM

Geez, spence, is there a single loon-a-tic lefty screwed up idea that you can't say something good about?

spence · 06-16-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

Geez, spence, is there a single loon-a-tic lefty screwed up idea that you can't say something good about?

The point is, does anyone here really care if they sell lobsters or not?

-spence

fishsmith · 06-16-2006, 06:38 PM

I don't care if they go belly up tomorrow, but to say it's unethical to sell live lobster. Get a grip.
Think they use pesticide in that store? What about the insects, those poor little bugs.

Bronko · 06-19-2006, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

Geez, spence, is there a single loon-a-tic lefty screwed up idea that you can't say something good about?

Nebe · 06-19-2006, 07:06 AM

Guys, Wholefoods probably stopped selling lobster because they couldn't jack the price up like they do on all of their other meats. Since they could not come up with a clever way of saying that their lobsters are massaged with Saki every morning etc..they simply dropped the item and came up with a clever way of saying that they cant make any $$ off of them... All lobsters are free-range, all lobsters are usually sold alive, so how can wholefoods make it any better and charge more?
If we see a major change in the way lobsters are collected, say if we begin farming them in large fish farms, then wholefoods will sell lobsters the way everyone else sells them now and charge double saying its the only environmentally friendly way to do it.

have you guys learned anything from the Bush administration???

"uffah!!" · 06-16-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

Is there anyone on this site that's bought a lobster at WholeFoods anyway ???

Regardless, be very thankful there are animal rights wackos out there, they actually have done a lot to improve farming conditions that have led to better quality products for all of us.

-spence

I wish I live next door to Spence. That way, I could plant a Bush and show him What I ReallyThink!!!

spence · 06-17-2006, 07:22 AM

I think the issue is, they don't want to have the ethical burden of live animals on their shoulders...these probably are the only two products sold in the store that are living...

...besides yogurt

-spence

basswipe · 06-17-2006, 08:35 AM

http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/comp..._06-16-06.html

Swimmer · 06-17-2006, 08:25 PM

They put hamas in the bait bags?

basswipe · 06-18-2006, 10:25 AM

The 'ol hamas,hummus,ham-ass debate.
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ighlight=hamas
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ighlight=hamas

spence · 06-18-2006, 10:44 AM

Good eye Wipe, I didn't even get the reference when I first read it

-spence

RIROCKHOUND · 06-19-2006, 08:17 AM

The question I have is..
Do they sell veal at Whole Foods?

spence · 06-19-2006, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

The question I have is..
Do they sell veal at Whole Foods?

The question is moot.

There are many producers of veal that are "considered" humane by the non-peta ecco crowd...We consumed 6 of said prime chops during last years Christmas dinner seared with a porcini sauce

-spence

RIROCKHOUND · 06-19-2006, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

The question is moot.

There are many producers of veal that are "considered" humane by the non-peta ecco crowd...We consumed 6 of said prime chops during last years Christmas dinner seared with a porcini sauce

-spence

So why are lobsters, that are transported alive less humanly treated than a baby cow kept inside a box?

Dont get me wrong, I love veal, I just think it is rather hypocritical of Whole Foods.... and just silly...

spence · 06-19-2006, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

So why are lobsters, that are transported alive less humanly treated than a baby cow kept inside a box?

Well, more and more veal is now raised in larger pens rather than in the old-style stalls. It's humane enough for the natural food crowd to deem it ethical...

As far as the cow is concerned, this is their natural environment.

Not so for the lobster, free for years to live and reproduce only to be yanked (tricked really) to live out their sentence in an artificial holding tank.

Of course to see the logic you have to get past the idea that a lobster is about as smart as a cricket, and feel that as human you need to extend a little extra courtesy to those mother nature created.

-spence

Bronko · 06-19-2006, 08:42 AM

This can't be a serious conversation??? Are you really trying to break down the difference between a lobster pool and a veal holding area on whether or not these creatures were "tricked" into being there?

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Originally Posted by spence

Well, more and more veal is now raised in larger pens rather than in the old-style stalls. It's humane enough for the natural food crowd to deem it ethical...

As far as the cow is concerned, this is their natural environment.

Not so for the lobster, free for years to live and reproduce only to be yanked (tricked really) to live out their sentence in an artificial holding tank.

-spence

The Dad Fisherman · 06-19-2006, 08:48 AM

The only difference I see is that one is served with melted butter on the side and one is not.

either way, in the Immortal words of Fat Bastard " Get....In....My....Belly"

Swimmer · 06-19-2006, 11:46 AM

I can't be sure because I didn't open the hot dog role bag, but my wife seemed to think that there was only five rolls in the bag, which means as oppsed to going up on the price in an up front manner they are just selling you five rolls for the price of six. We buy most of our food there, no lobsta's, and less and less red meat.

spence · 06-19-2006, 11:52 AM

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We buy most of our food there, no lobsta's, and less and less red meat.

Their dry aged beef is a pretty good deal, nearly as good as prime for 1/3 of the cost. I'd spend a fortune if I shopped there all the time, it's bad enough as it is...

Some of the local grocers are really going nutz on prices. Clements in Portsmouth sells freaking shallots for a buck EACH!

If I'm cooking for a dinner party sometimes I have to hit three stores to get exactly what I'm after...drives me nutz.

-spence

Bronko · 06-19-2006, 12:17 PM

You don't ask Skip to bring you anything on the ride down to RI?

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Originally Posted by spence

Their dry aged beef is a pretty good deal, nearly as good as prime for 1/3 of the cost. I'd spend a fortune if I shopped there all the time, it's bad enough as it is...

Some of the local grocers are really going nutz on prices. Clements in Portsmouth sells freaking shallots for a buck EACH!

If I'm cooking for a dinner party sometimes I have to hit three stores to get exactly what I'm after...drives me nutz.

-spence

spence · 06-19-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronko

You don't ask Skip to bring you anything on the ride down to RI?

You think I'd trust Skippy to select my produce?

Ask him for sweet potatoes and I'd end up with a few russets and a half eaten box of Splenda.

-spence

Bronko · 06-19-2006, 12:34 PM

Good stuff Spence.

basswipe · 06-20-2006, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

Some of the local grocers are really going nutz on prices. Clements in Portsmouth sells freaking shallots for a buck EACH!

-spence

Not the cheapest place to shop.That's for sure.

Saltheart · 06-20-2006, 03:09 PM

I always feel guilty when I boil lobsters. Feeling guilty makes me hungry so I boil some more!! Its a vicious cycle....

Swimmer · 06-19-2006, 11:48 AM

Spence did you finally get those new lights for the office that makes it seem like daylight in the office?

RIROCKHOUND · 06-20-2006, 07:28 AM

Spence,
ya know I luv ya, but I think a complaint about the price of shallots will probably never escape my lips.....

spence · 06-20-2006, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Spence,
ya know I luv ya, but I think a complaint about the price of shallots will probably never escape my lips.....

If you were dropping a wad on a multi-course meal for six or eight people, you'd curse the price of shallots too...

Food is getting really expensive. I think the soaring energy costs are really catching up.

-spence