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11-15-2012, 01:13 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
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So anybody get these Obama gifts Romney is saying sank his election?
I didn't get an Obama Gift, siggghh
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11-15-2012, 01:27 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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for a top notch busineman, romney has some serious trouble communicating. His message gets lost in how he says it.
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11-15-2012, 02:19 PM
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Mosholu
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NYC
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How come with Obama these are "gifts" to get votes and with Mitt cutting taxes on cap gains and dividends were policies. I have given up on all these guys.
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11-15-2012, 02:29 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,302
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The RNC just came out with a report that blamed other reasons - changing demos, Sandy, GWB and Romney's not connecting/appealing (something like that) w/the middle class.
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11-15-2012, 02:40 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mosholu
How come with Obama these are "gifts" to get votes and with Mitt cutting taxes on cap gains and dividends were policies. I have given up on all these guys.
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I can answer that.
None of Obamas "gifts" - contraceptives, student loans, high taxes on wealthy tie at all to creating jobs or stimulating the economy. There is no means to an end.
Romneys proposed policies that would stimulate the economy - these are means to an end. Lower taxes, businesses hire, tax revenues increase. Low cap gains, stumulate middle class investment and savings.
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11-15-2012, 04:24 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 20,441
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mosholu
How come with Obama these are "gifts" to get votes and with Mitt cutting taxes on cap gains and dividends were policies. I have given up on all these guys.
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Easy answer - what Romney wants to do is confiscate less from people who take risks and create wealth. "Confiscating less" from someone, is not the same thing as giving them a gift. As a group, liberals seem to have a tough time distinguishing between those 2 things. |
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11-15-2012, 06:01 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Upper Bucks County PA
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45,000,000+ total on Foodstamps + 400,000 new "enrollees" in August = Purchased Election for President Barack Gibsmedat
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You can’t truly call yourself “peaceful” unless you are capable of great violence.
If you are incapable of violence, you are not peaceful, you are just harmless.
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11-15-2012, 06:50 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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If AMT is not adjusted anybody who makes a joint income above 75,000 is going to in that line too
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11-16-2012, 09:42 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Considering most people on this forum seem to either work hard or are retired, I'd expect few if any around here are receiving Obama's ever-increasing gifts.
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11-16-2012, 09:52 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Gloucester Massachusetts
Posts: 2,678
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I only paid towards the gifts....no free B's yet...trying to convince the mrs. we need to put what we have in a black box and take out as needed....and only then we can get the hand outs....after 40 years of work I feel I deserve it....why not get a free cell phone...my heat paid for and pay no taxes and get about 4,000 back when filing with the IRS....what a country...no place like America
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11-16-2012, 09:59 AM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
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I've tried to work out that black box thing, Haven't found a way to get that to work out so all my assets and incoming income go in and I draw a stipend as needed. Maybe I don't have enough to fill the box in.
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11-16-2012, 10:18 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Marshfield, Ma
Posts: 2,150
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C’mon guys, tis the season. This is a time of giving, not receiving.
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"I know a taxidermy man back home. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him!"
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11-16-2012, 11:56 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Gloucester Massachusetts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Piscator
C’mon guys, tis the season. This is a time of giving, not receiving.
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we give plenty....need to beat the wife to the mail box...looked in the mailbox a thank you card from Pathways for the donation...picked up the newspapaper front page headline...Pathways receives 2.5 million from uncle sam....told the wife no more giving... give it to grand kids...  |
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11-16-2012, 12:01 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Marshfield, Ma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly Rod
we give plenty....need to beat the wife to the mail box...looked in the mailbox a thank you card from Pathways for the donation...picked up the newspapaper front page headline...Pathways receives 2.5 million from uncle sam....told the wife no more giving... give it to grand kids... |
Yup, we are changing our ways of donating too (not that we can afford to give much away anyway) but with the Government distributing it for us, we are going to have to take ourselves out of the game...............Someone called on Tuesday asking for money and I told them straight up, can't do it this year, going to have to put that money to increased taxes. |
"I know a taxidermy man back home. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him!"
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11-16-2012, 12:18 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Piscator
Someone called on Tuesday asking for money and I told them straight up, can't do it this year, going to have to put that money to increased taxes.
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Bingo! It gets tougher and tougher to justify charitable donations each year when Uncle Scam keeps coming for more and more more for "donations". |
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11-16-2012, 12:39 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Marshfield, Ma
Posts: 2,150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Bingo! It gets tougher and tougher to justify charitable donations each year when Uncle Scam keeps coming for more and more more for "donations".
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Pretty much what Joe Biden has been doing for years. What a puke for a human being. |
"I know a taxidermy man back home. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him!"
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11-16-2012, 02:05 PM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
Posts: 5,871
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Bingo! It gets tougher and tougher to justify charitable donations each year when Uncle Scam keeps coming for more and more more for "donations".
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Don't ever donate a boat.
You will not see anything until whoever it is donated to sells it.
Then it'll be for whatever they sold it for.  |
Ski Quicks Hole
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11-16-2012, 08:29 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Gloucester Massachusetts
Posts: 2,678
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I would rather invite a dozen needy people to a thanksgiving diner then to give my monies to charity...tryinto figure it out so only people in need( maybe with kids) apply for one of two sittings at thanks giving
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