Power Pro Super Slick Review - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

iamskippy · 06-05-2013, 06:36 AM

I thought this was a great video and share.

massbassman · 06-05-2013, 08:07 AM

Not too psyched to see this, as I loaded one of my VS's with it to try it out... had heard good things about it. Interested to hear what people think of it.

tysdad115 · 06-05-2013, 08:14 AM

I've used it for 2 years now, 50#. No problem. Jigging, plugging etc..in surf and canal. I have my 3 reels and Tyler's 2 spooled with it. Casts well, haven't had a wind knot in 2 years. I like the stuff myself.

Stewie · 06-05-2013, 08:35 AM

Watch his hands when he is swiping the Sufix. He takes a couple swipes and then wraps more line around his right hand. looks like he might be exposing a different bit of line to the rock. Even so, the Sufix definitely looks tougher.

massbassman · 06-05-2013, 08:39 AM

I wont be able to put it through its paces and give any real opinion till mid summer, as I'm still recovering from shoulder surgery. I had a good conversation with one of the guys at the SWE, and he gave it high praise and said he likes it. Same thing Andy... praised the increased casting distance and very few wind knots. I've always used PP but decided to try the Samurai braid on one of my other reels too. Be interesting to see how they compare.

zimmy · 06-05-2013, 08:48 AM

Pretty unscientific method. I use the 30lb on one reel and 50lb on another. Second season w/ no problems. Casts well. According to the stats on the Paulus website the actual breaking strength is substantially higher than advertised. Not fireline level, but higher. I have heard of issues with it, but none in my own experience. I also use izorline on one reel this year and it is great for extra thin, but strong line.

just noticed he is drinking beast ice. How do we take him seriously? I will see if I can replicate this tonight (the line thing, not the beast ice

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ivanputski · 06-05-2013, 09:08 AM

YIKES... I have been using regular power pro 50# for years no issue...

I have a spool of 300 yards of the slick-8 i was meaning to put on this week... this is certainly enough to make me rethink that! a week ago i had a large fish wrap around 2 boulders and run line around the rock... i was sure i would lose the fish, but the regular power pro never broke off...

I might be selling my spool of slick 8... why risk it

tysdad115 · 06-05-2013, 09:28 AM

I switched from original PP to Samurai before going to Slick 8. The Samurai was on my reels for 2 days, I couldn't get rid of it fast enough. I did not have good luck with it, others love it. Ultimately it's how the line works for the person using it.

piemma · 06-05-2013, 09:41 AM

Lost a huge fish at Prov Point the other night. 7000 Pro lock down drag line got cut on a rock. other than that I have been happy with the Slick

zimmy · 06-05-2013, 11:39 AM

Well, I was able to run out to my car during lunch and pull some 50lb yellow off of my reel. Grabbed a broken hunk of macadam curb and proceeded to my lab. On a sharp piece of macadam it broke in about two-four swipes over the exact same spot under full tension and pressure. On a smoother side it was four-six swipes. I also had some 30lb spiderwire original new on the spool in my desk which broke in two swipes sharp edge 4-6 swipes rounder edge. Also found 12 lb big game mono, which broke at 1-2 swipes sharp edge and 3-4 swipes rounded edge. In conclusion, if a big fish under tight drag wraps one of those lines around a broken macadam curb or barnacle covered rock, you are up the creek. The results give me pause to some degree, but I want to compare other braids. Although, I am pretty convinced that my results will be junk. I bought it before reading up at the Paulus site. His concern was quality control, especially since he likes small independent co's. Overall though, super slick did pretty good in his tests, which are done on electronic equipment (not sure if he addresses abrasion resistance). He has a statement on his site that matches my experience "Many of you do not seem to get the message that you cannot test lines yourself, your own results should reflect that fact." I will defer to that sentiment and my year of experience fishing the stuff before I switch again.

Saltheart · 06-05-2013, 12:43 PM

You do not choose braid for pound test. You choose braid for abrasion resistance. Choose the thickest stuff you can that will still cast acceptably.

The braids certainly do vary in abrasion resistance by brand.

Notaro · 06-05-2013, 12:55 PM

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just noticed he is drinking beast ice. How do we take him seriously? I will see if I can replicate this tonight (the line thing, not the beast ice

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piemma · 06-05-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Saltheart

You do not choose braid for pound test. You choose braid for abrasion resistance. Choose the thickest stuff you can that will still cast acceptably.

The braids certainly do vary in abrasion resistance by brand.

Mike, I totally disagree. I had nightmares on the Block 3 or 4 years ago with braid. I resolved never to go out to "Rock heaven" again with braid. I have been using mono out there for the last 2 years without a break off. Same in the Bay as I fish very rocky points. Now that's not to say that I wouldn't have lost fish with mono. I am saying that in my opinion mono has it allover braid for abrasion resistance especially certain mono. Back when I fished with "he who cannot be mentioned" we fished nothing but Ande Back Country and never had break offs.

zimmy · 06-05-2013, 01:24 PM

I lost a good fish to an abutment with 80lb whiplash. Braid is not good for abrasion resistance. I think what saltheart was saying is to pick a thick braid because thicker braid will have better abrasion resistance than thin braid, not that one should pick it based on breaking strength or that one chooses braid (over mono for example) because it is abrasion resistant. I think he is on to something. The fact that a braid breaks at 50lbs is not nearly as important as the inherent lack of stretch and the fact the it casts far because it is thin. Go with the thickest that will still cast reasonably well. Based on mono, a 17lb diameter equivalent braid still casts better than 20lb mono. I want to compare 17lb diameter braid to 17lb diameter mono to see if I can tease out how much the abrasion resistance is directly related to diameter vs other properties of braid vs mono.

Ian · 06-05-2013, 01:56 PM

I have the 30# on my 25... I've tried what he does in this video (forgot cutters and needed a retie) and on 4-5 sharp surfaces with 4-5 tries each I can't get it to break. Always end up begging for a lighter. Just my experience... Love the stuff
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piemma · 06-05-2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zimmy

I lost a good fish to an abutment with 80lb whiplash. Braid is not good for abrasion resistance. I think what saltheart was saying is to pick a thick braid because thicker braid will have better abrasion resistance than thin braid, not that one should pick it based on breaking strength or that one chooses braid (over mono for example) because it is abrasion resistant. I think he is on to something. The fact that a braid breaks at 50lbs is not nearly as important as the inherent lack of stretch and the fact the it casts far because it is thin. Go with the thickest that will still cast reasonably well. Based on mono, a 17lb diameter equivalent braid still casts better than 20lb mono. I want to compare 17lb diameter braid to 17lb diameter mono to see if I can tease out how much the abrasion resistance is directly related to diameter vs other properties of braid vs mono.

OK, I get it.

JamesJet · 06-05-2013, 05:07 PM

Used PP regular for years, tried the windcheater?? stuff Mike had a few years back, liked my first batch hated the second. Since then all last year and again now fishing with the slick and have really like it. If you are concerned about break offs then trade up in dia for a heavier test braid and loose some distance. BTW Izorline or Jerry Brown on the boat rods have both been good to me.
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Saltheart · 06-06-2013, 11:32 AM

Yes , I am not saying pick braid over mono for abrasion resistance. I am saying if you decide to go to braid , pick the one that is most abrasion resistant , not the one that has the highest strength with the thinnest diameter.

Jackbass · 06-06-2013, 12:28 PM

If you have concerns about abrasion resistance tie your leader direct and make it longer. May lose some casting distance but areas with boulder fields etc where your angle to a fighting fish may be flatter are generally not areas you should need to cast long distances to reach fish.
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fishbones · 06-06-2013, 12:40 PM

This video is a joke. He could have tampered with the PP prior to doing the test. The video is taken from far enough away that there's no close up of either line. Clearly, he's a Suffix guy since he has a giant spool of it that's almost empty. It's pretty evident that he has an agenda. If I recall correctly, Skippy has been a pretty big proponent of Suffix on here in the past, so take that with a grain of salt as well.

GregW · 06-06-2013, 01:48 PM

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This video is a joke. He could have tampered with the PP prior to doing the test. The video is taken from far enough away that there's no close up of either line. Clearly, he's a Suffix guy since he has a giant spool of it that's almost empty. It's pretty evident that he has an agenda. If I recall correctly, Skippy has been a pretty big proponent of Suffix on here in the past, so take that with a grain of salt as well.

X2,
I have some power pro slick on one reel. I don't care for it, but this video is just silly.
Let's start off with the first red flag. He is using used line verse never even spooled line. Most guys I know cut a few feet of line off after fishing. Why? Because it gets nicked. Red flag #2, he never keeps the same length of line or a constant angle. Obviously that will alter results. Red flag #3 we never see an up close shot of either line.
Also, it seems like, but hard to confirm he is holding the suffix with a little slack in it which would obviously change the results.

Hell, I won't use PP again, but see the problems with this video.

Rockport24 · 06-06-2013, 01:58 PM

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. Back when I fished with "he who cannot be mentioned" we fished nothing but Ande Back Country and never had break offs.

After hearing him and Steve M. say this in a seminar once, I have stuck with mono. I was tempted to use PP once and had all kinds of issues with the 30lb version, so went back to mono and never looked back! I've had some good fish take me right into the rocks and sure it's gets nicked up, but rarely breaks....

Circlehook · 06-08-2013, 09:30 PM

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I thought this was a great video and share.

Pretty ugly tablecloth.
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WESTPORTMAFIA · 06-09-2013, 02:19 AM

He drinks #^&#^&#^&#^&tier beer than I do. I have had no issues with the slick.
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capedeer/fish · 06-11-2013, 08:49 AM

I was at m&d yesterday and was told of this vid...i asked him about the pp ss fraying..and was told of this vid. I'm new to the ss this year..but do see some fray issues.
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GregW · 06-11-2013, 02:03 PM

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I was at m&d yesterday and was told of this vid...i asked him about the pp ss fraying..and was told of this vid. I'm new to the ss this year..but do see some fray issues.
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Do your own research. This video is suspect. Too many people with agendas.

Have you been able to duplicate the results?

afterhours · 06-11-2013, 04:50 PM

mike at m&d spooled it on one of my reels last year and I like it and have landed some nice fish, casts well, and have had no problems with it.

Jackbass · 06-12-2013, 09:38 AM

Too many products businesses etc. get a bad deal with stuff like this. I knew a guy that bad mouthed power pro (and any braid fro that matter) for a long period of time saying he had break offs constantly for no reason. Well come to find out he had a chip in a guide and never checked. You don't hear enough about the good stuff and too much about the bad. That's life I guess. I own a spool of slick 40 that will be going on my freshly serviced VS250 and I am willing to bet I won't have mystery break offs.

How often are you in a situation where one section of your running line is being chafed against a rock with out sliding due to drag rod bend fish movement etc. maybe the videographer should check to see his drag is set properly. Maybe I am wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.
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lamigsb1 · 06-12-2013, 11:45 AM

I have noticed a trend the past year or so of guys fishing with their drags just about locked down. Shock loading their lines with heavy snap casts and hang ups. While not taking the time to all least check the first few feet of line periodically through the night. Could be wrong. But ,being more dilegant wold save many a lot of cash
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