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07-15-2013, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly Rod
When someone is cracking your head on the pavement....yes it could be.
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Doesn't Martin have every right to defend himself?
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07-15-2013, 04:29 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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Originally Posted by spence
Doesn't Martin have every right to defend himself?
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was Martin attacked? Was there any proof that Zimmerman attached Martin? Any proof? Did Martin have any wounds other than the gubshot? Clothes torn? marks on zimmermans hands from assualting Martin? Nope, none of the above.
Zimmerman called police, did Martin? he had a cell phone.
There is no way anyone of you could have convicted Zimmerman based on the evidence.
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07-15-2013, 04:46 PM
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Location: On my boat
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Wasn't it reported Martin text a girl saying he's going to kick some Cracker's SSS or something to that effect ???
QUOTE=RIJIMMY;1006407]was Martin attacked? Was there any proof that Zimmerman attached Martin? Any proof? Did Martin have any wounds other than the gubshot? Clothes torn? marks on zimmermans hands from assualting Martin? Nope, none of the above.
Zimmerman called police, did Martin? he had a cell phone.
There is no way anyone of you could have convicted Zimmerman based on the evidence.[/QUOTE]
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LETS GO BRANDON
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07-15-2013, 05:47 PM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Conjecture and BS=nothing meaningful
The killing of another when in fear for your life is very subjective. Different folks reach the point of no return at different times in a struggle. First thing the jurors had to ask themselves who had the right to belong there, Zimmerman or Martin. Regardless of whether or not the gun gave him more balls, (hell I know many cops who wouldn't have left the station without one, ands that probably why they wanted the job, to carry one) he had the gun because he volunteered for the neighborhood watch. You can rant about the dispatcher telling him not to follow the kid. The dispatcher has no lawfull authority over George Zimmerman or anyone else. Was it sound advice, more than likely though. When Zimmerman still followed the dispatcher should have reasoned with Zimmerman to at least follow from a distance. Zimmerman never made any racial statement on the cell phone call. The only racial bias I heard during the trial came from the Martin witnesses. What he did was lumped Martin in with other perps, real or not, that have caused problems in his condo development. Anyone of us might have come to the same judgement, but probably would have minded our business. The kid made a terrible seventeen year old mistake that he paid the ultimate price for. I would be willing to bet Martin showed no respect to Zimmerman, because he was a hispanic man. Hispanic people are the majority in Florida and have been for several years.
You have to remember, someone not physically fit(Zimmerman), a wuss, a female, an older person, they are going to pull that trigger much sooner than most. And the victim has the right to use a greater force against the perpetrator than is being used against them. Gun v.s. sidewalk, gun wins.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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07-16-2013, 04:53 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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Originally Posted by Swimmer
The killing of another when in fear for your life is very subjective. Different folks reach the point of no return at different times in a struggle. First thing the jurors had to ask themselves who had the right to belong there, Zimmerman or Martin. Regardless of whether or not the gun gave him more balls, (hell I know many cops who wouldn't have left the station without one, ands that probably why they wanted the job, to carry one) he had the gun because he volunteered for the neighborhood watch. You can rant about the dispatcher telling him not to follow the kid. The dispatcher has no lawfull authority over George Zimmerman or anyone else. Was it sound advice, more than likely though. When Zimmerman still followed the dispatcher should have reasoned with Zimmerman to at least follow from a distance. Zimmerman never made any racial statement on the cell phone call. The only racial bias I heard during the trial came from the Martin witnesses. What he did was lumped Martin in with other perps, real or not, that have caused problems in his condo development. Anyone of us might have come to the same judgement, but probably would have minded our business. The kid made a terrible seventeen year old mistake that he paid the ultimate price for. I would be willing to bet Martin showed no respect to Zimmerman, because he was a hispanic man. Hispanic people are the majority in Florida and have been for several years.
You have to remember, someone not physically fit(Zimmerman), a wuss, a female, an older person, they are going to pull that trigger much sooner than most. And the victim has the right to use a greater force against the perpetrator than is being used against them. Gun v.s. sidewalk, gun wins.
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right on the money .... i'd say... well spoken
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07-15-2013, 04:36 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Gloucester Massachusetts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Doesn't Martin have every right to defend himself?
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Of course Martin does.....so does zimmerman....who threw the first punch?....its all hear say....no eye witness saw who threw the first punch.
yesterday I was ready to knock a young guy off his motor cycle with a bat....he saw the bat and turned around ...he was doing 40 in a 25....of course I would have been wrong
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