Watch Hill, We Have A Problem

[Clammer]

ROSS by the lenght & girth

[piemma]

Originally Posted by spence

Yea, it's not like it's Block Island…

-spence

Spence, I forgot all about that picture. Was that 2012?

[Raven]

that project is almost as big as the Hoover dam
throw in a water slide and you could charge admission

[spence]

Originally Posted by piemma

Spence, I forgot all about that picture. Was that 2012?

Yes, the week after Sandy.
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[Liv2Fish]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

I saw several houses slide down the bluff during my 20+ years in Montauk.

We have several ready slide down the cliffs in south Plymouth. From the beach, you can look up and see floor joists. The decks and footings have long ago made the journey down the cliff and have been washed away.

I'm told that if you don't tear them down when they've been condemned, you own the clean up costs to remove it if it falls down the cliff.

[DZ]

Projo did a story about the reconstruction in today's paper. CRMC says everything is legit. They (CRMC) mention the existing seawall as being public. Does anyone know who originally built that seawall? More importantly were any federal funds used to build that seawall? If so I think that the public will retain access to the wall.

DZ

[Clammer]

today 5 rigs working ..

[Linesider82]

I'd like to see if there was an actual survey preformed for this work. How else would anyone know where the boundaries are. Based on the money, I would think they did do a survey and specific regulations have been met. The town not requiring a permit smells like low tide, but I am not familiar with Westerly's planing and zoning regulations or Rhode Islands coastal laws. Based on a public right of way being an abutting property, the town in my opinion should have issued a permit so that the "Site Plans" were available to the public since they have an express interest in that piece of land, which dates further back then Ms. Swift's existence. Oh well, the guards have been nice to me, Taylor's presence adds humor, and we'll just have to fish some new structure... or get in trouble-ouble-ouble.

[Raider Ronnie]

[QUOTE=Finaddict;1026664]Every coastal region is experiencing the same thing ... in regards to outrageous priced houses on bluffs ... they will all fall in ... as far as Taylor Swift ... Ross may be right on the money, she may have no clue ... but until she changes her attitude, I will hold off on buying any of her albums



What exactly is the problem with Taylor Swift's attitude ?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

What exactly is the problem with Taylor Swift's attitude ?

Pretty sure she was an Obama supporter...not that there's anything wrong with that.
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[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by spence

Pretty sure she was an Obama supporter...not that there's anything wrong with that.
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She's on record as being Republican.

[nightfighter]

http://www.tmz.com/2013/12/31/taylor...sland-permits/

[spence]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

She's on record as being Republican.

False.
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[Clogston29]

was on good morning america today

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Linesider82

I'd like to see if there was an actual survey preformed for this work.

You really think there wasn't?

There was a permit, granted by CRMC. The town permit wasn't needed...

[Linesider82]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

You really think there wasn't?

There was a permit, granted by CRMC. The town permit wasn't needed...

An engineer can go to the town clerk's office and find a survey map on record, then make a plan showing proposed work, which would allow for permits to be obtained. My question would be to see if the property's actual boundary was marked out on the ground by a surveyor. If it has been, I don't see why people are complaining, and from the "news" articles I've read there is no mention of the boundary being marked out. Again, I am not familiar with Rhode Island's boundary laws, or the town of Westerly's codes, setback lines, etc. So I am only speaking from what I know about properties and typical rules/limitations for improvements. I also think if it wasn't a celebrity this likely wouldn't be much of a story.

[DZ]

After Hurricane Sandy I think the rules for refurbishing shorelines were "eased" for lack of a better word because time was of the essence. Wait times for approval were shortened as areas that needed reinforcement were time critical. Just look how quick the Matunuck, Block island, and Sachuest Point projects were approved - that process normally would have taken years. This project as Bryan mentioned was approved by CRMC and most likely had a public hearing or two when objections could have been raised.

[JohnR]

As much as I feel this does (more accurately did) not pass the smell test, it sounds like this was not what we originally thought - a Celebrity circumvention of the rules and our access. The initial reporting was borderline but much of what I have seen doesn't promote foul play.

It may not be what we would all like but it does not seem to be bad either. If those rocks the excavators are grabbing are the fallen riprap from the previous state of seawall then this is not unreasonable.

We will need to challenge access where it is hindered but this seawall recovery does not seem to be a negative thing.

[lurch]

Anyone with twitter? If this house is owned by Taylor Swift and she is the most charitable...maybe someone can tweet her the link to the article and the access concerns maybe she will respond. I believe her twitter handle is "taylorswift13"

[Gloucester2]

Not sure it is any of the articles posted here but I read someone from CRMC defending the work - specifically the movement of rocks that were in the water back onto the seawall - which was not contemplated in the original plans - they did that at the request of CMRC - I agree with JohnR seems legit . . . access issues aside.

[Mr. Sandman]

Sounds like a lot of jealousy here and even some schadenfreude . What kills me is all you self proclaimed non-rich folks who lose their house to a storm are the first to look for public money to rebuild because you did not have your own flood or storm insurance. At least they are protecting their own property. Poor folks wait till it falls in then look to the public for assistance because they feel some hardship and entitlement.

The taxes on that home esp in RI must be mind-numbing. IMO let her do whatever the hell she wants to her own property as long as she pays for it. (Her property boundary may even go out into the ocean. I know a lot of people in MA that pay taxes on "land" that is underwater)

Out here on east chop (which is a private part of the town ) the folks are looking to the state and feds to fix the erosion to the NE facing shoreline so the road does not fall off the cliff. Costs are big, millions. But as I said in a meeting some time ago, as a taxpayer I am pissed because I don't want my tax $ going to fix your private property problems. Guess what...the feds denied them. They now want to reluctantly donate the land to the government so it becomes their responsibility to maintain it.
My attitude is : you own it you protect/maintain it.

[RIROCKHOUND]

I don't think it is jealousy Jim, I think people are legitimately concerned about access. In this case, things were handled on the up and up.

As far as the rest... adaptive retreat needs to be part of the solution.....

[OLD GOAT]

It's sad that they don't have to include a pathway in the rocks for those passing through