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[MakoMike]

From what I have been reading there are plenty of fish down there, but they are all in the EEZ where no one is supposed to fish for them, and the CG has notified everyone that they intend to strictly enforce the ban of striper fishing in the EEZ.

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

From what I have been reading there are plenty of fish down there, but they are all in the EEZ where no one is supposed to fish for them, and the CG has notified everyone that they intend to strictly enforce the ban of striper fishing in the EEZ.

This argument gets so old, and so phony.

There are "plenty" of rhinos in the game reserves of Kenya. That doesn't mean the population is healthy and those animals should be killed.

The isolated presence of fish in protected areas serves only to emphasize the dire lack of a healthy population and the need for more widespread protection elsewhere. Unless one's motivation is financial, of course, in which case one makes up a myth about the lack of bait inshore, pretends the fish have to be offshore (even though such a situation never existed in the past), and uses it to rationalize that we should have access to them.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by numbskull

This argument gets so old, and so phony.

There are "plenty" of rhinos in the game reserves of Kenya. That doesn't mean the population is healthy and those animals should be killed.

The isolated presence of fish in protected areas serves only to emphasize the dire lack of a healthy population and the need for more widespread protection elsewhere. Unless one's motivation is financial, of course, in which case one makes up a myth about the lack of bait inshore, pretends the fish have to be offshore (even though such a situation never existed in the past), and uses it to rationalize that we should have access to them.

Don't read what I didn't write. I didn't draw any conclusions, or make any recommendations.

[Sea Dangles]

Five years ago they were filling dumpsters at the marinas with racks on a daily basis.I think the regs were a little less stringent than what is being enforced lately. In a case of better late than never it would be nice to see this site take a stand against any tournament for bass that is a kill format. Perhaps a letter to the publisher from the Bossman explaining why would go a long way. I know there are still bass around and I can enjoy the fishery for a while longer if this species is just given a break and some genuine management is implemented. I don't know MakoMike but I have seen him take the party line to the extent that he seems to believe things are currently sustainable. I would say it is time to look in the mirror and stop pretending.
Over at OTW I know Chris Meaghan is a decent man who loves to fish.The problem is his lust for dollars has muddied his sportsmanship to the point where he is biting off his nose despite his face.I understand he has a family to support But I refuse to destroy a fishery to enable that mindset.It is hard to support a magazine that is knowingly destroying a species for cash considerations.
Once a week I do a google search on striped bass and crap like this pops up about there being no fish around. Ask the Chesapeake guys how their season is shaping up....terrible!That's right folks,they are all in Chatham and 40 miles off Va Beach.

[vineyardblues]

someone wants to see dead fish old pic I found

[MAKAI]

Originally Posted by vineyardblues

someone wants to see dead fish old pic I found

That sure is a lot of cat food......
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

[Liv2Fish]

I haven't looked in a while so I'm not sure when they changed the format but you used to be able to view the entire seasons results of the striper cup weigh ins, now they only list 40 lbs and up. And there's now a tab pointing out how important conservation is to the fishery.

I have a spread sheet somewhere that contains the entire landings report exported to Excel that I intended to set up for some data mining. There were several useful discernible patterns but I was shocked and pissed at the amount of fish under 30lbs that were allowed to be weighed in.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I don't know MakoMike but I have seen him take the party line to the extent that he seems to believe things are currently sustainable. I would say it is time to look in the mirror and stop pretending.

I do not think that things are sustainable under the current regs. I wish the ASMFC would so something for this year and not wait until 2015 to put in new regs. But I do think that the "sky is falling" attitude exhibited by some is way off the mark. I fished during th 70s and 80s and today's situation is nowhere near as bad as it was back then.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

I do not think that things are sustainable under the current regs. I wish the ASMFC would so something for this year and not wait until 2015 to put in new regs. But I do think that the "sky is falling" attitude exhibited by some is way off the mark. I fished during th 70s and 80s and today's situation is nowhere near as bad as it was back then.

the difference now is that there are ten times more people fishing for them now than back then

[piemma]

[QUOTE=MakoMike;1029897 fished during th 70s and 80s and today's situation is nowhere near as bad as it was back then.[/QUOTE]

maybe not yet, but it's on the horizon.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by piemma

maybe not yet, but it's on the horizon.

Not even close.