Obamacare cost

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Better half works for a major health insurance company. So we are able to identify the cost increase directly due to Obamacare in our household.... 27 paychecks in 2014 with a $60.00 increase per paycheck. That's a $1620.00 increase in our annual budget....


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Can I ask a clarifying question?
What if any were the increases over the last few years?



My contribution 2014, to my healthcare is ~$3,100/yr with dental, vision etc...

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Can I ask a clarifying question?
What if any were the increases over the last few years?



My contribution 2014, to my healthcare is ~$3,100/yr with dental, vision etc...

A good question. A lot of the flap around this is change that's been happening regardless. Also, if you could attribute an increase specifically to the ACA the benefits would have to be factored in as well.

I think my first son cost me a few hundred bucks out of pocket. seven years later the next cost me a few grand. The system was out of control...
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by spence

A good question. A lot of the flap around this is change that's been happening regardless. Also, if you could attribute an increase specifically to the ACA the benefits would have to be factored in as well.

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The law imposed mandates, got rid of annual dollar limits (made them unlimited), said no pre-existing conditions limits, said deductible caps cannot exceed $2k for indiv. or $4K for families on grandfathered, amongst other things. So the law certainly increased costs. Some of these may not apply to their plan.

I just don't know that the average person can attribute a $ amount to the ACA.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

The law imposed mandates, got rid of annual dollar limits (made them unlimited), said no pre-existing conditions limits, said deductible caps cannot exceed $2k for indiv. or $4K for families on grandfathered, amongst other things. So the law certainly increased costs. Some of these may not apply to their plan.

I just don't know that the average person can attribute a $ amount to the ACA.

And it mandates that kids can stay on the family plan until they are 26 .
You got to love magic .....
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by buckman

And it mandates that kids can stay on the family plan until they are 26 .
You got to love magic .....
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I did until 24.
I was not living at home, but was enrolled in graduate school.


It also doesn't mandate THEY HAVE to stay on the plan if they are employed....

[basswipe]

It is absolutely mind-blowing reading what Obamacare supporters will say to defend this crap and the people who made this possible.

Obamacare is driving up the cost of all pre-obamacare healthcare plans because it has to.How do you think the working folks in this country are going to be able to continue to carry this welfare-state? He might as well have given every working American the one-finger salute and said I'll just raise taxes.

Obama supporters live in a delusional world.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by basswipe

It is absolutely mind-blowing reading what Obamacare supporters will say to defend this crap and the people who made this possible.

Obamacare is driving up the cost of all pre-obamacare healthcare plans because it has to.How do you think the working folks in this country are going to be able to continue to carry this welfare-state? He might as well have given every working American the one-finger salute and said I'll just raise taxes.

Obama supporters live in a delusional world.

I asked a simple question about cost, and pointed out that at least anecdotally, most kids past 11 or 22 are not staying on their parents plans to mooch.

How did I come out and defend the ACA? I even gave ross my costs since he asked...
I was 24 well before the ACA, thats for damn sure.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I did until 24.
I was not living at home, but was enrolled in graduate school.


It also doesn't mandate THEY HAVE to stay on the plan if they are employed....

That's why I said "can"
You're a smart guy so I'm sure you can figure out that if they " can " then they will. Even if the company they work for offers it , there is usually a financial incentive offered to exempt out of the company health program .
Not only does this eff up the seriously flawed math used in Obama Care ( ill stick to calling it that , thank you ) but it cost the insurance company immensely , which is passed on to you .
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