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[WESTPORTMAFIA]

His sentence should be nothing. The banks,credit card companies, and retailers pretty much leave it wide open for fraudulent transactions.


Making it mandatory to show Id on every transaction would help and be too easy for the whole system. Something is up!! I use my debit card over 100 times per month every month and only get asked for id once every couple of months even though the merchants run it as credit 80% of the time.The cards can be easily linked to a state or govt issued ID card upon issuance and be required to show the same at point of sale. No ID? NO sale. Easy as that for debit and credit. These buttholes steal the card # and name make a card and go shop with no Id required. Good for them! Why not? its so easy!
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[Fly Rod]

If U sign your name on back of card it is an easy pass....at regrister they just look if signed they do not care.

It is very simple what to do....just write on back of card: See I D ... it works for me 99% of the time....they do not follow through if it has a name on the back....DuRRRRR...

[Jenn]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

If U sign your name on back of card it is an easy pass....at regrister they just look if signed they do not care.

I am actually in the middle on an experiment ask we speak. We have been playing the "points/cash back" game and the latest & greatest deal is on an account in my husbands name. I had my card under this account in my wallet and when I started using it a couple weeks ago I noticed I never signed it. Well lets just say I use it for just about everything and in those couple of weeks so far not one person has asked me yet for ID or even commented on the fact that it is not signed! I am curious to see how long it takes before I am questioned for the first time!

[Slipknot]

in the old days, you were hanged for stealing a horse
serious stuff, the punishment fits the crime and it is a good deterent.

if nothing happens to the hacker, then there is no punishment or deterent to do it again, like poachers in fishing.

blaming the CC co. is like saying too bad it's your fault you left your rod on your roof while you stepped away for a moment, so I guess you might as well just hand to someone if you are going to leave something for a moment unattended

maybe someday soon they will get it together and be able to be a step ahead of hackers and thieves. It is costing consumers millions

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by Jenn

I am actually in the middle on an experiment ask we speak. We have been playing the "points/cash back" game and the latest & greatest deal is on an account in my husbands name. I had my card under this account in my wallet and when I started using it a couple weeks ago I noticed I never signed it. Well lets just say I use it for just about everything and in those couple of weeks so far not one person has asked me yet for ID or even commented on the fact that it is not signed! I am curious to see how long it takes before I am questioned for the first time!

I use the wife's card often, they R not signed, I'm almost never asked for an ID even with a womens name on the front...only place that I have been refused to use her card is at the local super market....some places here under 50 bucks U do not even have to sign....when I do sign, I sign her name... never questioned.

Now, since I put "See I D" on my card I am asked 99.9% of the time.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by WESTPORTMAFIA

These buttholes steal the card # and name make a card and go shop with no Id required. Good for them! Why not? its so easy!
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good for them?
why not?
yes it's easy for them, but that does not make it right. It makes it stealing and it's wrong and against the law. No different than a pick pocket.

Just because you leave your fishing rod on your roof and someone steals it , doesn't make it good for the person who stole it

so you're blaming the banks and credit card companies? maybe they are lacking in up to date security, but that should not invite theft.
People should have integrity and morals, what's mine is mine, what's yours is yours. so if you are going to steal cards, take them from commies

[WESTPORTMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

good for them?
why not?
yes it's easy for them, but that does not make it right. It makes it stealing and it's wrong and against the law. No different than a pick pocket.

Just because you leave your fishing rod on your roof and someone steals it , doesn't make it good for the person who stole it

so you're blaming the banks and credit card companies? maybe they are lacking in up to date security, but that should not invite theft.
People should have integrity and morals, what's mine is mine, what's yours is yours. so if you are going to steal cards, take them from commies

People should have integrity and morals. Keyword is should. Yes that's who I'm blaming for sure. If they weren't wrong they wouldn't be refunding everyone for fraudulent charges. And people don't leave their rod's on their roof because we know that someone would steal them. It's how the world is.

[ThrowingTimber]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

so if you are going to steal cards, take them from commies

Cant take from someone who has nothing. (+ their cards are chipped for the most part)

Storing track data on magnetic strips on cards is super antique. Has no security and its basically a 70's - 80's throwback to times when the folks who could read the track data thought themselves smarter than the average person. Now you can buy card plastics online with holograms and have them delivered to your home. There was a recent bust in Florida on a guy running just such an operation.

Wallets that prevent scanning are a good measure for cards with mag strips. Better are cards which have a chip and the chips contains encrypted data. Granted its rather weak encryption however if posed with the option of scanning a mag strip card or having to actually do something and break encryption on a chipped card, the lower hanging fruit will always be picked first.

If you are concerned with cards/card based security I suggested reading a few of the articles on Krebs on Security. He does a REAL good job of explaining everything and makes it a point to not talk over peoples heads.

Further security, is to contact the 3 major credit reporting agencies and establish 1. monitoring 2. a secure password/passcode for the opening of any new credit accounts.

Originally Posted by Slipknot

blaming the CC co. is like saying too bad it's your fault you left your rod on your roof while you stepped away for a moment, so I guess you might as well just hand to someone if you are going to leave something for a moment unattended

maybe someday soon they will get it together and be able to be a step ahead of hackers and thieves. It is costing consumers millions

The evil software (black pos) that is being used on these point of sales(pos) terminals has been available and in the open for quite awhile now(2008 or so). I feel that all in the chain of processing the card systems payments should be held accountable. No one wants to spend the money on security until something horrible happens and then its too late the reputational damage has been made.