Createx Headaches

[Eric Roach]

Hi MS, thanks for replying. I was actually going to PM you about this.

Originally Posted by Muskyslayer96

...I use my wife's old hairdryer and just heat it long enough to see the paint dry.
I felt like I had done this with the heat gun, I passed it over the paint until the wet sheen was off -- even while continuing to paint.

...are you hitting the etext coat with heat gun after its added to remove bubbles?
No, I use my breath through a straw (a rod-building trick). I've burned far too much epoxy using a mini propane torch; never tried a heat gun/hair dryer.

...I quickly wave the heat gun on low setting over the bait before it goes on the drying wheel...to remove bubbles.
I just blow with the straw. At times, I can see the moisture from my breath sheen on the epoxy then quickly evaporate, but I see this on plugs that don't fisheye either so I don't believe it's the cause.

...What type of brushes are you using?
Acid brushes from Woodcraft. I dip them and wipe them with denatured alcohol before useing them. I also wipe the mixing cup, the mixing roller (I use an electric mixer) and the aluminum dish I pour the epoxy in before use.

...syringes...
I use silicone-free rod building syringes. I E-texed 4 plugs last night with the same set of syringes and only the one plug pitted.

I've had this problem a few times in the past so I started spraying a light coat of satin lacquer on plugs and letting them thoroughly dry before E-texing. This took care of a lot of issues. Of course, I skipped that step on this plug.

I know this issue is directly related to the Createx because that's the only part of the plug that pitted.

I'm wondering if I should have bake-cured the plug at a low setting(?)

[Sgt Striper]

Mixing acrylic with any solvent based paints will create headaches!! What probably happened is when you applied the Createx over the Krylon and the heat set you got outgassing from the Krylon. I use only water based acrylics now including my primer and have had no ill effects with the Etex, if anything I am getting a better adhesion and a smoother finish.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Sgt Striper

Mixing acrylic with any solvent based paints will create headaches!! What probably happened is when you applied the Createx over the Krylon and the heat set you got outgassing from the Krylon. I use only water based acrylics now including my primer and have had no ill effects with the Etex, if anything I am getting a better adhesion and a smoother finish.

Ditto.....I wouldn't mix the 2.

[Swimmer]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Ditto.....I wouldn't mix the 2.

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[Eric Roach]

Originally Posted by Sgt Striper

...Mixing acrylic with any solvent based paints will create headaches...

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Ditto.....I wouldn't mix the 2.

Originally Posted by Swimmer

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I have layered acrylics over a lacquer base coat, layered acrylics over airbrushed lacquer paints, and layered airbrushed lacquer coats over acrylic many times in the past without the issue I am describing.

Come to think of it, I have always used a lacquer base coat before airbrushing, which means I have always layered acrylic over a lacquer base. I have had only a few problems doing this, and I'm now wondering if the problems were related to inappropriate dry times for the lacquer base...I have to admit I'm not always patient. I can see how Kevin's use of a water-based primer would help in this matter -- no outgassing issues if the base/prime coat is water-based.

OK, lesson learned: I won't combine the two anymore.

Thanks for all your input.