ZEEBAAS question

[numbskull]

I've been using a VS150 this spring. Not thrilled with it.

Light, solid little reel for sure, but the drag adjustment is less precise than the ZB (it ramps up pressure too fast), the line lay is awful even with an attempt to hump the line on the initial fill up, it is leaking oil at the main seal (I've had a ZB do this as well), but the thing I like the least is repeated line snags on the roller during casts. Unless I position the spool extended and the roller to the left I get trouble. Needing to think about and check the spool position before each cast is annoying although it probably will eventually become automatic. I've never had this issue with the other manual pickup reels I own (706, ZB25, ZB22) and I think it has something to do with the light line on the 150 and the narrow spool lip/pickup roller clearance.

Is this an issue with the larger VS reels? Is there a way around it I've not figured out?

[wader-dad]

I have a VS 150 and After putting on new line- also with the hump backing- twice I had the line get under the spool and wrap around the shaft. Did not happen last night. Anyone else ever have that happen?

[puppet]

Originally Posted by wader-dad

I have a VS 150 and After putting on new line- also with the hump backing- twice I had the line get under the spool and wrap around the shaft. Did not happen last night. Anyone else ever have that happen?

Yup....just happened last night. Never with the hourglass.

So this season I picked up a vs200....spooled at store...humped. I
also decided I would give the same a whirl on my 150.

In the past I always put line on under pressure by hand. Both of
these humped spoolings were mechanically spooled.

What is interesting. The store spooling was so tightly packed that
after 6 outings I started getting wind knots and had to strip out
line...yet...the spool is still full....and overflowing. I really feel that
as new line seasons it gains volume and the fibers fluff out....thus
it cannot pack into the same volume on the spool...thus the wind
knots and the loose line getting it places it doesn't belong.

I own both VS and Z. Like both.... but the edge for me goes to the VS.

[Liv2Fish]

Originally Posted by numbskull

I've been using a VS150 this spring. Not thrilled with it.

Light, solid little reel for sure, but the drag adjustment is less precise than the ZB (it ramps up pressure too fast), the line lay is awful even with an attempt to hump the line on the initial fill up, it is leaking oil at the main seal (I've had a ZB do this as well), but the thing I like the least is repeated line snags on the roller during casts. Unless I position the spool extended and the roller to the left I get trouble. Needing to think about and check the spool position before each cast is annoying although it probably will eventually become automatic. I've never had this issue with the other manual pickup reels I own (706, ZB25, ZB22) and I think it has something to do with the light line on the 150 and the narrow spool lip/pickup roller clearance.

Is this an issue with the larger VS reels? Is there a way around it I've not figured out?

Never had that issue with my VS250. I agree that the line lay is poor and the drag is same as you mention. I hate the way line peels off the reel when the drag is pulled too. Always feels like it's going to get fetched up and stick.

I picked up a ZX25 after the season last year and haven't thrown it yet but the drag is definitely far superior.

[puppet]

Originally Posted by numbskull

I've been using a VS150 this spring. Not thrilled with it.

Light, solid little reel for sure, but the drag adjustment is less precise than the ZB (it ramps up pressure too fast), the line lay is awful even with an attempt to hump the line on the initial fill up, it is leaking oil at the main seal (I've had a ZB do this as well), but the thing I like the least is repeated line snags on the roller during casts. Unless I position the spool extended and the roller to the left I get trouble. Needing to think about and check the spool position before each cast is annoying although it probably will eventually become automatic. I've never had this issue with the other manual pickup reels I own (706, ZB25, ZB22) and I think it has something to do with the light line on the 150 and the narrow spool lip/pickup roller clearance.

Is this an issue with the larger VS reels? Is there a way around it I've not figured out?

I automatically check my pickup position every cast...it is automatic
when I lift the line off the roller.... I rotate it a half turn. Not just
VS but my Z as well. I converted my Z from a double pickup to a
single because one night in high surf just the wind and waves would
push the rotor enough to cause a foul cast. I got the double not
because I wanted it but in 2008 it was what they had in inventory.

I think someone on a thread that the internal lube type and fill
level can affect how easily the rotor moves on its own. I cannot
confirm the truth of this.

I like my 150....but wish they would just design it with a bigger
crank arm, and a more robust drag. Been thinkin on getting the
bigger arm for it, but I have already spent too much this season on
goodies I don't need.

[JohnnySaxatilis]

Yea, I have had the line wrap around the vs200 a few times. just my opinion I feel like it only happens usually when I'm off on the timing (late) doing the pickup of the line with my index finger, or if its into a stiff breeze and I kinda fan the cast high or wide. The line is coming off the spool without any tension connected to the plug in both cases. More with broken in line which is more supple compared to stiffer, newer, or higher test braid. Seems to happen more with the 30# than before when I had 40#

[Sgt Striper]

Originally Posted by numbskull

Light, solid little reel for sure, but the drag adjustment is less precise than the ZB (it ramps up pressure too fast), the line lay is awful even with an attempt to hump the line on the initial fill up, it is leaking oil at the main seal (I've had a ZB do this as well), but the thing I like the least is repeated line snags on the roller during casts. Unless I position the spool extended and the roller to the left I get trouble. Needing to think about and check the spool position before each cast is annoying although it probably will eventually become automatic. I've never had this issue with the other manual pickup reels I own (706, ZB25, ZB22) and I think it has something to do with the light line on the 150 and the narrow spool lip/pickup roller clearance.

In order to get the line lay you must start the hump right from the spool arbor but I must say I have never had any problems with the hourglass lay. As far as leaking oil is it on the spool shaft? There are only two parts of the reel that are lubed with the gear oil, the spool shaft to keep the quad seal lubricated and the A/R clutch bearing. A slight amount of oil on the shaft is not a problem and you should occasionally clean it and add a drop of 80/90wt gear oil to keep the quad seal lubed. If you are getting excessive amounts of oil on the shaft you can always send it to me and I will take care of you as you have done for me. As far as the line issues, light limp line or an over filled spool could be the problem.