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05-31-2014, 04:40 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
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Location: Rhode Island
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Originally Posted by JohnnySaxatilis
This seems like the biggest problem to me, each state has its own regulations, it needs to be an atlantic coast wide regulation system
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AMEN! Federal game fish status for the species. |
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05-31-2014, 08:37 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Originally Posted by Sea Flat
You absolutely nailed this numbskull. That YOY class from two years ago was obviously a good thing for the fish and the future, but I fear it may have put a damper on any type of smart conservation tactics that may have been on the horizon.
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How many of those fish will make it to spawning age, considering that MD netters can legally harvest 18" fish?
Recs can also keep two 18" fish a day most of the year, too.
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06-01-2014, 11:11 AM
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Location: Middleboro MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
How many of those fish will make it to spawning age, considering that MD netters can legally harvest 18" fish?
Recs can also keep two 18" fish a day most of the year, too.
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I heard it was dropped to 16" this year  
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06-02-2014, 07:34 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
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one word- flustercuck.
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06-02-2014, 08:08 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Mass.
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By keeping 18" fish as MD can they are harvesting a lot of the males and not necessarily the females. Would you rather they take the spawning females (those over 28") or the males? myself I would rather see the males taken leaving the females to spawn. Ron
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06-02-2014, 09:20 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnySaxatilis
This seems like the biggest problem to me, each state has its own regulations, it needs to be an atlantic coast wide regulation system
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It already is. Most states are at 2 fish at 28 inches or greater, but any state can adopt more restrictive regulations (like NY) or use conservational equivalancy (like ME). |
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06-02-2014, 09:34 AM
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Eels
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cape Cod,MA.
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Originally Posted by MakoMike
It already is. Most states are at 2 fish at 28 inches or greater, but any state can adopt more restrictive regulations (like NY) or use conservational equivalancy (like ME).
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New Hampshire is one @ 36" or greater.
Maine is 1 @;20"-26" and one @ 40" or greater.New Hampshire is the only state to hold it's ground for one at 36" that it great,MA. Had the same criteria back in the nineties.
The should bring it back.
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06-02-2014, 09:45 AM
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#38
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Originally Posted by ronfish
By keeping 18" fish as MD can they are harvesting a lot of the males and not necessarily the females. Would you rather they take the spawning females (those over 28") or the males? myself I would rather see the males taken leaving the females to spawn. Ron
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Ron, not to be a jerk but your logic is flawed. ALL bass are 18" at some point in their live. What, you think the females go from 17 to 22" and never are 18". |
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06-02-2014, 09:46 AM
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Location: Newport, RI
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1 @ 36. If it wasnt broke dont fix it.
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06-02-2014, 09:56 AM
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Eels
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cape Cod,MA.
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Originally Posted by bassballer
1 @ 36. If it wasnt broke dont fix it.
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I agree,for some dumb reason RI. Was the first state to implement 2 @ 28" maybe it's just me but I feel that's going in the wrong direction.
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06-02-2014, 12:02 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Originally Posted by bassballer
1 @ 36. If it wasnt broke dont fix it.
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You should have seen the poaching and illegal fish taken during 1 @ 36" and 1 @ 34". My fishing partner at the time and I had a gun pulled on us when we challenged a guy, in the surf at Deep Hole, as he walked off the bar with 2 20" fish. No lie!
I agree, if we cannot get game fish status then 1 @ 36 will help. It won't stop the black market however. |
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06-02-2014, 02:20 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Originally Posted by piemma
You should have seen the poaching and illegal fish taken during 1 @ 36" and 1 @ 34". My fishing partner at the time and I had a gun pulled on us when we challenged a guy, in the surf at Deep Hole, as he walked off the bar with 2 20" fish. No lie!
I agree, if we cannot get game fish status then 1 @ 36 will help. It won't stop the black market however.
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When I was a kid, some people were keeping 14" fish when the limit was 16". Enforcement may be spotty at best now, but it was non-existent then. |
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06-02-2014, 02:42 PM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5/0
New Hampshire is one @ 36" or greater.
Maine is 1 @;20"-26" and one @ 40" or greater.New Hampshire is the only state to hold it's ground for one at 36" that it great,MA. Had the same criteria back in the nineties.
The should bring it back.
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Maine is one or the other, not both. |
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06-02-2014, 03:01 PM
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Location: Maine
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New Hamsphire is 2 fish; Minimum 28" only one over 40".
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06-02-2014, 05:13 PM
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Eels
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cape Cod,MA.
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Originally Posted by Sea of Atlas
New Hamsphire is 2 fish; Minimum 28" only one over 40".
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Wow I just there spec's and I stand corrected, I had no idea they changed I wonder why after all these years..... |
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06-02-2014, 07:37 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
Ron, not to be a jerk but your logic is flawed. ALL bass are 18" at some point in their live. What, you think the females go from 17 to 22" and never are 18".
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Actually, his logic is quite correct. Its a game of odds.. a female will grow to be a cow, while a male will grow to be only half the size of a big fat female. so, if you catch a 28 inch bass, the odds of it being a male fish are much greater than a female because they grow much faster. If a slot limit was in place, it would ensure that most of the females in the prime breeding age are far more protected than the males.
Maine has got it right.. also Florida's redfish regs are to be learned from as well. |
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06-03-2014, 01:39 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
Actually, his logic is quite correct. Its a game of odds.. a female will grow to be a cow, while a male will grow to be only half the size of a big fat female. so, if you catch a 28 inch bass, the odds of it being a male fish are much greater than a female because they grow much faster. If a slot limit was in place, it would ensure that most of the females in the prime breeding age are far more protected than the males.
Maine has got it right.. also Florida's redfish regs are to be learned from as well.
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Eben, if we were talking about 28" bass I would agree. Actually the discussion revolved around 18" bass at which point the numbers are not in favor of either gender. Because of the anomaly of males not growing as big as female bass, it only becomes statistically accurate after 28 or 30". All bass become 18". Not all male bass reach 30" |
No boat, back in the suds.
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06-03-2014, 07:30 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Buxton, Maine
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Been hard at it for the last 2 weeks. amazing how many of the cell phone brigade aren't out there cause they're not gettin any calls about this pole number or that. Wonder why. the night fishing is very lonely as there are very few of us out there.but I know us old timers have just forgot how to fish.You kids gotta start listening or all those VS,Stellas,an Zeebass reels you got to make you better fishermen are gonna be some expensive yard sale food or dust collectors. Us old guys don't use cell phones at night. Think about the reports from everywhere about how slow the fishing is. The water temp,lack of bait,wrong tide,wrong moon,bein a googan an so on can only be used as an excuse so long.
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06-04-2014, 12:24 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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you're not that old Ron
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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06-04-2014, 01:02 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Mass.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
Ron, not to be a jerk but your logic is flawed. ALL bass are 18" at some point in their live. What, you think the females go from 17 to 22" and never are 18".
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I agree that all the fish are 18" at some point but from my experience most of the fish that size are males. I can not explain it but that is what I have seen, maybe it has to do with the fact that a spawner drops so many eggs at once she needs multiple males around to provide enough milt to fertilize all the eggs.
Even if a female at 18" is caught enough will survive to reach spawning size and be "protected by a slot limit" so the species can carry on. Ron |
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06-04-2014, 01:05 PM
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Location: Mass.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
Actually, his logic is quite correct. Its a game of odds.. a female will grow to be a cow, while a male will grow to be only half the size of a big fat female. so, if you catch a 28 inch bass, the odds of it being a male fish are much greater than a female because they grow much faster. If a slot limit was in place, it would ensure that most of the females in the prime breeding age are far more protected than the males.
Maine has got it right.. also Florida's redfish regs are to be learned from as well.
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I agree with you on the redfish of FLA also the snook.
Also the male bass only live about 10yrs; whereas the "cow" will reach 25+ yrs. Ron |
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06-04-2014, 01:17 PM
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how the hell do you tell the difference between a male and female striper?
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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06-04-2014, 03:37 PM
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Eels
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cape Cod,MA.
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
how the hell do you tell the difference between a male and female striper?
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If they drip like a faucet when you talk dirty to em,then you know you got a girl |
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06-04-2014, 06:03 PM
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#54
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Registered User
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Location: Buxton, Maine
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one squirts white an the other squirts little marbles LOL
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06-04-2014, 08:56 PM
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Location: Sturbridge MA
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I think its the way they smell.
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Everything is better on the rocks.
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