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Old 06-13-2014, 10:33 AM   #1
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But I keep coming back to this...Bush gave Saddam plenty of chances to avoid war by letting the inspectors do their job (which he was obligated to do). If Bush was hell-bent on war, he wouldn't have gived Saddam a dozen chances to avoid war by simply complying with international law. To say that Bush had made up his mind to invade and wasn't going to be dissuaded, is refuted by that simple fact.
Much of Bush's inner circle didn't want him to even go to the UN because they feared it would stop the process. They did it only for legitimacy, and abandoned it when it became clear that Hans Blix was heading towards a call of no WMD.

There certainly is debate if the US complied with international law by moving forward with the invasion.

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There certainly is debate if the US complied with international law by moving forward with the invasion.

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???? Did this just happen???
I bet even your blinders have Obama stickers on them
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Old 06-13-2014, 12:30 PM   #3
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Much of Bush's inner circle didn't want him to even go to the UN because they feared it would stop the process. They did it only for legitimacy, and abandoned it when it became clear that Hans Blix was heading towards a call of no WMD.

There certainly is debate if the US complied with international law by moving forward with the invasion.

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(1) then a lot of other countries violated international law with us, because we were not the only ones there.

(2) if you are a stickler for sticking to international law, why do you suppose your hero rolled over like a dog when Putin seized Crimea?

Have fun with that.
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(1) then a lot of other countries violated international law with us, because we were not the only ones there.

(2) if you are a stickler for sticking to international law, why do you suppose your hero rolled over like a dog when Putin seized Crimea?

Have fun with that.
Why do you say "have fun with that" like you've made some brilliant point?

We weren't alone in 2003 but the list is pretty short.

As for Crimea, yes Russia likely broke international law. With everything, there's only so much you can do. Was Obama supposed to bomb the covert Russian troops?

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Why do you say "have fun with that" like you've made some brilliant point?

We weren't alone in 2003 but the list is pretty short.

As for Crimea, yes Russia likely broke international law. With everything, there's only so much you can do. Was Obama supposed to bomb the covert Russian troops?

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"We weren't alone in 2003 but the list is pretty short."

Before you blindly and thoughtlessly defend your side every time, try getting some facts first. From one site, a list of 21 countries that had troops in Iraq with us. I knew of 14 off the top of my head...

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita..._coalition.htm

"Was Obama supposed to bomb the covert Russian troops? "

I didn't hear many people at all support that. But it projects weakness when he stands there like a eunuch.

Here is what he was "supposed to do". When he campaigned, I kept hearing that because Obama (unlike Bush) was an intellectual instead of a cowboy, and because he was such a cosmopolitan and enlightened Nobel laureate, because he was pot-partisan and even post-racial (he's above such mundane things, you see) he was going to repair all the damage done by Bush and bring everyone in the world together in a collective hug. He would solve problems by making everyone love us...
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"We weren't alone in 2003 but the list is pretty short."

Before you blindly and thoughtlessly defend your side every time, try getting some facts first. From one site, a list of 21 countries that had troops in Iraq with us. I knew of 14 off the top of my head...

httqp://www.globalsecurity.org/milit..._coalition.htm
I said in 2003 not 2006. I believe the invading coalition was only 5 countries not including the Kurds...

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