Young peoples view?

[JohnR]

Interesting graphs

Originally Posted by Nebe

To hell with both parties.
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I am unaffiliated but we need them to counter balance each other

Originally Posted by Fishpart

My daughter is explaining to me how Christopher Columbus is responsible for slavery and therefore bad...

I got that from my son the other day too.

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

Nebe....agreed, abolish both parties....

Balance

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Interesting graphs



I am unaffiliated but we need them to counter balance each other




Balance

I disagree. What we have now is basically two parties that pander to two social classes. The GOP panders to the upper class with their giveaways in the form of tax breaks and hopes of smaller government and the Dems pander to the lower class with their handouts.

There needs to be a third party that represents those who are in the middle and does not focus on handouts to buy votes and does not use religion or holy wars to achieve a foothold. That's where the tea party lost me.
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[Moses]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I disagree. What we have now is basically two parties that pander to two social classes. The GOP panders to the upper class with their giveaways in the form of tax breaks and hopes of smaller government and the Dems pander to the lower class with their handouts.

There needs to be a third party that represents those who are in the middle and does not focus on handouts to buy votes and does not use religion or holy wars to achieve a foothold. That's where the tea party lost me.
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Eben - So simple yet so right.

[Piscator]

Originally Posted by Nebe

The GOP panders to the upper class with their giveaways in the form of tax breaks and hopes of smaller government and the Dems pander to the lower class with their handouts. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

I'm not upper class (wish I was) but I think this could be re-phrased...just doesn't seem right that a tax break would be considered a "giveaway"...

[FishermanTim]

A tax break is sort of a "give-away" when the funds lost by the tax break are recouped from the rest of us "working" stiffs.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I disagree. What we have now is basically two parties that pander to two social classes. well...truthfully, we have one party pandering to one social class because as we know, the Republicans pander to the rich.....and we have another party, the Democrats which panders to the rich(have you seen Obama and Hillary fundraisers???) and....I wouldn't say panders to the poor so much as holds them hostage, they do pander to the Unions which claim to represent the middle class too...

There needs to be a third party that represents those who are in the middle and does not focus on handouts to buy votes and does not use religion or holy wars to achieve a foothold. That's where the tea party lost me.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement I read the whole thing and must have missed the holy wars part
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we've always had third parties, take your pick from those that claim to "represents those who are in the middle",

Centrist-This section includes any party that is independent, populist, or any other that either rejects right-left politics or doesn't have a party platform.

American Populist Party
Citizens Party
Modern Whig Party
Reform Party of the United States of America
Unity Party of America

you live in RI...have you joined the "Moderate Party" yet ?

a concurrent national third party is unlikely to be widely successful in our system of elections see..Duverger's Law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law..

perhaps you want to replace one of the current parties? in which case we'll still have essentially a two-party system and lot's of folks still complaining that we need a third party that represents ..."them"...see Duverger's Law again

....the Tea Party is not a "Third Party"

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I disagree. What we have now is basically two parties that pander to two social classes. The GOP panders to the upper class with their giveaways in the form of tax breaks and hopes of smaller government and the Dems pander to the lower class with their handouts.

There needs to be a third party that represents those who are in the middle and does not focus on handouts to buy votes and does not use religion or holy wars to achieve a foothold. That's where the tea party lost me.
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"The GOP panders to the upper class with their giveaways in the form of tax breaks "

I'd say there is a big difference between "giving" someone something, and "taking less from them". "taking less", is notthe same as "giving".

Tax rates on the rich make a great liberal talking point, but it's nothing. Maybe they could pay a few more points, but even if they did, you think that solves anything? We'd still be adding to the deficit each year. The problem isn't too little coming in, it's too much going out, and much of it on stuff that only benefits a small number of people that specific politicians are pandering to.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Tax rates on the rich make a great liberal talking point, but it's nothing. Maybe they could pay a few more points, but even if they did, you think that solves anything? We'd still be adding to the deficit each year. The problem isn't too little coming in, it's too much going out, and much of it on stuff that only benefits a small number of people that specific politicians are pandering to.

Jim, you have to understand, common sense is way to complicated
for the elite Libs to understand.