1 @ 28" has been passed.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Whats wrong with that is that the large breeders really should be protected. 2 @33" will do nothing toward dealing with the obscene charter slaughters up and down the coast. In most cases, 2 @33 is what most of them are bringing to the dock now.

Obscene is in the eye of the beholder. Most of the guy fishing on those charters only do so once a year, so effectively they would be fishing under a two fish a year limit, or don't you think the average charter fisherman should have to the same rights as a shore or private boat fisherman?

[Dick Durand]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

Obscene is in the eye of the beholder. Most of the guy fishing on those charters only do so once a year, so effectively they would be fishing under a two fish a year limit, or don't you think the average charter fisherman should have to the same rights as a shore or private boat fisherman?

With all due respect it really doesn't much matter that guys charter only once a year. The charters themselves are on the water daily with the next batch of "once a year" sportsmen.

[piemma]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^& Durand

With all due respect it really doesn't much matter that guys charter only once a year. The charters themselves are on the water daily with the next batch of "once a year" sportsmen.

And that is exactly the point. Great post #^&#^&#^&#^&. You beat me too it.
Mike is just trying to protect his lively-hood at the expense of the future striper fishery.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by piemma

And that is exactly the point. Great post #^&#^&#^&#^&. You beat me too it.
Mike is just trying to protect his lively-hood at the expense of the future striper fishery.

FYI I have never chartered for striped bass, its not my specialty, and I haven't chartered at all for the past three years while I was taking care of my wife. Ypu guys just don't seem to get two basic points:

1- striped bass spawning success is totally dependent on the weather, something we have no control over. What the ASMFC is trying to do is keep the SSB high enough so that when we do get favorable weather conditions we will get an extremely large year class of fish, like the 2011 year class.

2- The best hope for a strong spawn is from the 2011 year class, and that year class will only be protected for about a year with these new rules.

[piemma]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

FYI I have never chartered for striped bass, its not my specialty, and I haven't chartered at all for the past three years while I was taking care of my wife. Ypu guys just don't seem to get two basic points:

1- striped bass spawning success is totally dependent on the weather, something we have no control over. What the ASMFC is trying to do is keep the SSB high enough so that when we do get favorable weather conditions we will get an extremely large year class of fish, like the 2011 year class.

2- The best hope for a strong spawn is from the 2011 year class, and that year class will only be protected for about a year with these new rules.

OK, then I apologize. I did not know you didn't charter for Stripers.

I will agree with some reservations with Point #1.

Point #2 become somewhat academic as if we don't protect SOMETHING then we will be left with NOTHING. I understand that 1 @ 28 only protects, in theory, one year class but Mike, you have to start somewhere.

I don't believe that the new rules will do anything to stop the wanton slaughter of 40s and 50s that took place at the SW Ledge and The Block in general, this past Summer. Perhaps the 25% decrease in the comm quote will do something to mitigate this problem but, and I have been preaching this for years now, the only way the Striper problem gets solved permanently is with Game Fish Status.

That being said, I firmly believe that I will not see this in my lifetime.

[rphud]

Per Mike's point on 2011 year protection, maybe this needs to be like the fluke regs. Each year the legal length goes up to continue protection of that year population for spawning until things get back to where they need to be. Just a thought....not likely to happen me thinks.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^& Durand

With all due respect it really doesn't much matter that guys charter only once a year. The charters themselves are on the water daily with the next batch of "once a year" sportsmen.

The charterboats are like buses that only take the fishermen to the fishing grounds. Maybe we should restrict private boats to only fishing once a week? How about prohibiting fishing from the beach every other weekend?

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

Obscene is in the eye of the beholder. Most of the guy fishing on those charters only do so once a year, so effectively they would be fishing under a two fish a year limit, or don't you think the average charter fisherman should have to the same rights as a shore or private boat fisherman?

There is nothing that says they can only fish on a charter. They can fish from shore or private boat. Whether it is a charter or the banks of the canal, it is obscene and the regulations need to reduce it. I don't care if the guys do so once a year. The boats go out twice a day and hit the same schools of big fish over and over until they are depleted, then move on to the next one.