TWO BASS FOR RI CHARTER AND PARTY BOATS?

[ivanputski]

Priority #1 right now should be what is best for the fish population... PERIOD.

Those who vehemently oppose the idea that bass stocks are in trouble most likely have views that are motivated by money.
We are playing Russian Roulette with an entire fishery.
If the bass population never collapsed in the past, then maybe you can stick to a "no way... never gonna happen" mentality... but it did, and it seems that some just refuse to accept the idea that bass are in any trouble at all.

[JoeG@Breezy]

Originally Posted by ivanputski

Priority #1 right now should be what is best for the fish population... PERIOD.

Those who vehemently oppose the idea that bass stocks are in trouble most likely have views that are motivated by money.
We are playing Russian Roulette with an entire fishery.
If the bass population never collapsed in the past, then maybe you can stick to a "no way... never gonna happen" mentality... but it did, and it seems that some just refuse to accept the idea that bass are in any trouble at all.

Nailed it. Just like Nero fiddling while Rome burned.
1 @ 32 for all and 25% commercial. Note that 25% commercial does not have the same impact in every state, as in NY for example, it actually results in an increase over 2013 catch. I believe it's near 10%. Let's worry about the fish.

[MikeToole]

One of the problem with having different limits for the charters is it does not match any of the options put forth by ASMFC. You can not say for sure that 1 at 28 for Recreational and one of the other options such as 2 at 32 for the charters meets the 25% reduction. I would guess the state would have to take this back to ASMFC for approval. This may be why Virginia went with the 1 at 28 since their season is currently in progress and then they will look to change it next year.

buckman's statement "Those that accuse the charter guys of being greedy and then are asking for the stripers to be listed as " gamefish " are hypocrites.
They want the fish to themselves."

Just shows his ignorance to what is being said. If it was a game fish it would still be available to commercial fisherman and the charters. Just on a totally equal basis to everyone else. Everyone would have the exact same limit. Most of the people here are just asking for all recreational fisherman to have the same limit, not for game fish status. Most are looking for a one fish limit to protect and increase the fish numbers which in the end will help both the charters and commercials if the numbers increase.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by MikeToole

One of the problem with having different limits for the charters is it does not match any of the options put forth by ASMFC. You can not say for sure that 1 at 28 for Recreational and one of the other options such as 2 at 32 for the charters meets the 25% reduction. I would guess the state would have to take this back to ASMFC for approval. This may be why Virginia went with the 1 at 28 since their season is currently in progress and then they will look to change it next year.

buckman's statement "Those that accuse the charter guys of being greedy and then are asking for the stripers to be listed as " gamefish " are hypocrites.
They want the fish to themselves."

Just shows his ignorance to what is being said. If it was a game fish it would still be available to commercial fisherman and the charters. Just on a totally equal basis to everyone else. Everyone would have the exact same limit. Most of the people here are just asking for all recreational fisherman to have the same limit, not for game fish status. Most are looking for a one fish limit to protect and increase the fish numbers which in the end will help both the charters and commercials if the numbers increase.

Pardon my ignorance ... I'm pretty sure " gamefish status " would mean no commercial fishing or sales of striped bass.
Am I wrong ? No you are
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[MikeToole]

Originally Posted by buckman

Pardon my ignorance ... I'm pretty sure " gamefish status " would mean no commercial fishing or sales of striped bass.
Am I wrong ? No you are
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You are still missing the point. Game fish status would not prevent a commercial fisherman from catching fish for personal use, they would have the same exact right as a recreational fisherman. No, they would not be allowed to sell them but what you accused the recreational fisherman on this site of who don't think charters should have a different limit is wanting them all for themselves which is not true. Under game fish status everyone would be treated the same and have the same opportunity to take fish.

Plus, most as I noted are not asking for game fish status, they are just asking for an equal limit for all recreational fisherman of one fish, most haven't even commented on commercial fishing, just charters. People who go out on charters are nothing more then recreational fisherman and should be treated no different than other recreational fisherman be them shore bound or own their own boat.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by MikeToole

You are still missing the point. Game fish status would not prevent a commercial fisherman from catching fish for personal use, they would have the same exact right as a recreational fisherman. No, they would not be allowed to sell them but what you accused the recreational fisherman on this site of who don't think charters should have a different limit is wanting them all for themselves which is not true. Under game fish status everyone would be treated the same and have the same opportunity to take fish.

Plus, most as I noted are not asking for game fish status, they are just asking for an equal limit for all recreational fisherman of one fish, most haven't even commented on commercial fishing, just charters. People who go out on charters are nothing more then recreational fisherman and should be treated no different than other recreational fisherman be them shore bound or own their own boat.

I totally understand what you are saying but that eliminates commercial fishing or the ability of those who don't fish the chance to consume delicious striped bass .
Where we differ is how far the sky has fallen .
I think, and the science seems to agree , that there is enough bass to make it good for everyone including the fish .
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