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03-04-2015, 01:44 PM
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Location: Mansfield
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Originally Posted by MAKAI
Question for you Buck ?
We're you fishing for bass in the early to mid 80's ?
Just curious.
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Yes I had a boat in Sesuit .
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03-04-2015, 01:37 PM
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Too old to give a....
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Eerily familiar isn't it Paul ?
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03-04-2015, 04:38 PM
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#3
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MAKAI
Eerily familiar isn't it Paul ?
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I can hear the footsteps.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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03-05-2015, 06:08 AM
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#4
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Location: Mansfield
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You win Scott. Your right . If charter boats get 2@33 the fisherie will cease to exist and all hell will break loose on the waters 😊 . It will be too confusing to the ever vigilant EPO's . Lmao
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03-05-2015, 07:09 AM
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#5
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Originally Posted by buckman
You win Scott. Your right . If charter boats get 2@33 the fisherie will cease to exist and all hell will break loose on the waters 😊 . It will be too confusing to the ever vigilant EPO's . Lmao
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didn't say that...you are letting your emotions get the best of you
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03-05-2015, 08:30 AM
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#6
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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Originally Posted by scottw
didn't say that...you are letting your emotions get the best of you
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Definitely the emotions because there's no logic to be seen.
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03-05-2015, 06:44 AM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
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This could all have been avoided if the asmfc had some balls, did their job, and said: 1@ 28" for everyone. No eceptions. " instead they sent the states home with a menu of voodoo math options to fight it out.
Thanks asmfc... You really did a great job!
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03-05-2015, 08:32 AM
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#8
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Location: Newtown, CT
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Originally Posted by ivanputski
This could all have been avoided if the asmfc had some balls, did their job, and said: 1@ 28" for everyone. No eceptions. " instead they sent the states home with a menu of voodoo math options to fight it out.
Thanks asmfc... You really did a great job!
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Its not ASMFC's "job" to dictate to the states what they must or cannot do.
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03-05-2015, 10:49 AM
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Location: CT
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Originally Posted by MakoMike
Its not ASMFC's "job" to dictate to the states what they must or cannot do.
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I couldn't tell... Seemed like they prescribe what they are supposed to do
Except with zero accountability
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03-05-2015, 11:15 AM
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#10
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Join Date: Dec 2000
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Important meeting going on right now in Mass where they are making a decision to recommend 1 or 2 fish bag. If Mass go's 1 RI will be the only NE state to recommend 2 fish. It will be our last chance to convince Janet Coit to not take the RIMFC recommendation because there would be no perceived advantage in other NE states over RI. Stay tuned.
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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03-05-2015, 11:43 AM
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#11
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Location: Mansfield
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Just for the record if Ma goes 1 then I agree RI has to go 1 too . The charter industry in my area will be toast anyways . Guess we can all put our permits in use and fish commercial to make up for lost revenue .
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03-05-2015, 11:48 AM
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#12
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Originally Posted by buckman
Just for the record if Ma goes 1 then I agree RI has to go 1 too . The charter industry in my area will be toast anyways . Guess we can all put our permits in use and fish commercial to make up for lost revenue .
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What makes you so certain you are going to loose business ? What's the difference between 1 or 2 fish per person??? People pay for the sizzle not the steak
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03-05-2015, 11:58 AM
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#13
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Location: Mansfield
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Originally Posted by Nebe
What makes you so certain you are going to loose business ? What's the difference between 1 or 2 fish per person??? People pay for the sizzle not the steak
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We do a great job with the sizzle . Even have a grill on board and cook an amazing lunch. Let's hope we can do it the same with out the steak . Believe me I hope you guys are right .
I won't let the clients who told us they were going to wait to see on the decision before they booked a trip get me down
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03-05-2015, 11:46 AM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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From MSBA's Facebook page
Patrick Paquette
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MSBA Govt Affairs Update: The MA Marine Fisheries Commission just voted UNANIMOUSLY to accept the Directors recommendation to set 2015 striped bass regulations: ONE FISH @ 28 inch minimum size FOR ALL RECREATIONAL ANGLERS. This includes passengers on a for hire vessel. Thank You to all who supported the effort to bring reasonable regulations to striped bass fishing in MA.
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03-05-2015, 12:31 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2000
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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak
From MSBA's Facebook page
Patrick Paquette
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MSBA Govt Affairs Update: The MA Marine Fisheries Commission just voted UNANIMOUSLY to accept the Directors recommendation to set 2015 striped bass regulations: ONE FISH @ 28 inch minimum size FOR ALL RECREATIONAL ANGLERS. This includes passengers on a for hire vessel. Thank You to all who supported the effort to bring reasonable regulations to striped bass fishing in MA.
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This is our opening to get RI 2 fish recommendation overturned. Get ready for one last campaign.
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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03-05-2015, 12:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DZ
This is our opening to get RI 2 fish recommendation overturned. Get ready for one last campaign.
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puts Ms. Coit in a bit of a pickle, we were told that the reason they(RI) needed the #2 option going down to Alexandria was because they couldn't have boats(within the mode) fishing side by side under different regulations...well......
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03-05-2015, 12:34 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thefishingfreak
From MSBA's Facebook page
Patrick Paquette
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MSBA Govt Affairs Update: The MA Marine Fisheries Commission just voted UNANIMOUSLY to accept the Directors recommendation to set 2015 striped bass regulations: ONE FISH @ 28 inch minimum size FOR ALL RECREATIONAL ANGLERS. This includes passengers on a for hire vessel. Thank You to all who supported the effort to bring reasonable regulations to striped bass fishing in MA.
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Good
hope it's enough to help what is left of the stripers
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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03-05-2015, 12:00 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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Could always move ops to RI I hear the block is off the hook
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03-05-2015, 12:05 PM
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#19
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Location: CT
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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak
Could always move ops to RI I hear the block is off the hook
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LOL
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03-05-2015, 12:02 PM
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#20
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Location: Libtardia
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When you do a charter , do you do target multi species ? That's the sizzle IMHO. A little of everything. Ok, so a person can't take 4 bass filets home, but he can take 2 bass filets , some fluke filets a few whole sea bass and a couple blackfish. That's an experience!
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03-05-2015, 12:13 PM
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#21
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Location: Mansfield
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Originally Posted by Nebe
When you do a charter , do you do target multi species ? That's the sizzle IMHO. A little of everything. Ok, so a person can't take 4 bass filets home, but he can take 2 bass filets , some fluke filets a few whole sea bass and a couple blackfish. That's an experience!
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We do but as you know ground fish is done for us . Fluke are not easy to come by in our waters ( we are north of the cape ) pollack is an option but that's another 20 mile run most times . Shark is usually our combo , sometimes tuna .
Most times we at least offer a fantastic whale watching.
The boats south do have many more options. That's one of the reasons our association was pushing for two fish at 33
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03-05-2015, 01:39 PM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
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RI charters original argument was that if they could only keep 1 while neighboring states were allowed to keep 2, that would be unfair and cause people to book charters in other states.
Well, now the scenario has reversed itself...
We will now see how concerned RI is with "fairness", since if their original argument is valid, that means anglers from neighboring states will flock to RI to book charters for their 2 fish, thus making the unfair advantage (originally feared by RI) a reality for neighboring states.
Hmmmm.... one might almost think this ended up exactly as intended
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03-05-2015, 02:03 PM
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DZ sorry but I give up ......... the fix is/was in ............GR told Coit she wanted to take care of the charter boats & captains/mates ...........word filtered down to the DEM committee ...........&& you get a 5 - 3 vote . which is 100% again the majority of people that were asked & also people that spoke at the hearings & sent e-mails .
Its all about the money & again RI will look like A/H,s
WTF do we have the Striper as out state fish . there won,t be any ><><><
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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03-05-2015, 06:48 PM
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Location: Newtown, CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
RI charters original argument was that if they could only keep 1 while neighboring states were allowed to keep 2, that would be unfair and cause people to book charters in other states.
Well, now the scenario has reversed itself...
We will now see how concerned RI is with "fairness", since if their original argument is valid, that means anglers from neighboring states will flock to RI to book charters for their 2 fish, thus making the unfair advantage (originally feared by RI) a reality for neighboring states.
Hmmmm.... one might almost think this ended up exactly as intended
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NY, which is the main competitor to RI charter boats is going with a 2 fish limit (for everyone).
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03-05-2015, 08:45 PM
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Too old to give a....
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Isn't the second fish supposed to be 43 inch and up ?
Or am I confusing the hodgepodge of various rules and regs ?
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03-05-2015, 09:51 PM
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Email sent to Governor GR.
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03-06-2015, 04:36 AM
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still work to do...yesterday was a good day....need to appeal to the Gov, Director Coit and I think, to the good folks who were involved in the process along the way....we were told that RI had to offer the second option (Option#2) in Alexandria because they needed to protect RI for hires against a competitive disadvantage should neighboring states opt for a mode split for charters and also to keep regulations consistent between boats state to state (within the mode) assuming that Mass and perhaps CT was going to opt for mode splits. That premise is now gone, the ONLY way that RI can prevent what they claim they were trying to avoid by including a second option (Option #2) (AND IT IS "#2"..MORE IRONY  ) is to fall in line with Mass with Option#1 and have Ct. follow, NY boats will only be allowed 1 bass per client if they choose to fish our waters. OPTION #2 is now invalid based on the premise that it was originally offered. To do otherwise, to establish mode splits now would be irresponsible and downright disingenuous. I am contacting everyone going back to the meeting before the ASMFC meeting and imploring them to reach out to the Governor and Director on this, I'd encourage all concerned to do so as well, they were either misled, mistaken or willing participants of a hoax which has led to this. This cannot be what they intended based on what we were told and if it somehow was, that would be pretty insidious. I believe, based on what I saw, that some of them were very reluctant including that second option. Perhaps now they will do the right thing.
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03-06-2015, 07:32 AM
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Congrats to Mass for thier choice, i can wait to see all.the guys.with2 fish.down the canal, hope they all.get busted.
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03-06-2015, 07:59 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
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For whatever it's worth, I sent an email to Director Coit last night quoting the Mass regs.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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03-06-2015, 08:09 AM
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For whatever it's worth, I sent an email to Director Coit last night quoting the Mass regs.
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What is her email again?
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