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[scottw]

Originally Posted by iamskippy

Was sarcasm scott, i agree whole heartedly with your above statement.
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got that....I'd argue that they are likely losing business from fishermen, potential clients that may be turned off....and in many cases they've created the monsters that they are now begging an exception for

[buckman]

Originally Posted by scottw

got that....I'd argue that they are likely losing business from fishermen, potential clients that may be turned off....and in many cases they've created the monsters that they are now begging an exception for

Why don't you just worry about yourself😊
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by buckman

Why don't you just worry about yourself😊
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Why don't you... Oh wait.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by buckman

Why don't you just worry about yourself��
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I'm worried about the fishery Buck... you know, if the road near your house that was 50 mph had become congested over time and it reached a point where a meeting was called to address the problem and it was determined that everyone was going to drive 25 mph on that stretch of road to address the issue ....but one user group, let's say taxis, were arguing that their out of town clients whom they shuttled to and from the airport would never accept going only 25 because they were always in a hurry needed at least the expectation of the ability to get their destination faster or they wouldn't use the service causing great economic impact to the region and putting some of them out of business. Also that, through acceleration equivalence, "for-hires" actually be would be much safer than recreational drivers because they are on the road more naturally making them better drivers, so for them, 50 is not much different than 25 . Would you be on board with that argument?


my personal belief is that the move to 1 fish is long overdue...and that it should always be 1 bass going forward...this is our best opportunity and we won't get another for some time.......we know that the fishing pressure will continue to increase, the technology will continue to improve and the bass population is not exactly exploding...they are quickly and easily exploited wherever they show up(shore and sea)...it's harder and harder to calculate what the effect will be in the future when schools get hammered relentlessly as has been pointed out but we know it can't possibly be a positive....as a Rhode Islander, I don't want out of state clients of and in taxis going 50 mph down the road by my house marked 25 mph for everyone else, they can drive 50 down their own street in their own town and cause whatever problems that ensue...I'm not going to their state to try to dictate what their laws and regulations should be or threatening not to visit if they don't accommodate me by treating me differently than their own residents......not hard to understand is it?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by scottw

I'm worried about the fishery Buck...you know, if the road near your house that was 50 mph had become congested over time and it reached a point where a meeting was called to address the problem and it was determined that everyone was going to drive 25 mph on that stretch of road to address the issue ....but one user group, let's say taxis, were arguing that their out of town clients whom they shuttled to and from the airport would never accept going only 25 because they were always in a hurry needed at least the expectation of the ability to get their destination faster or they wouldn't use the service causing great economic impact to the region and putting some of them out of business. Also that, through acceleration equivalence, taxis actually be would be much safer going 50 because they are on the road more than recreational drivers so for them, 50 is not much different than 25 safety wise. Would you be on board with that argument?

Charter boats are not the problem Scott… You guys are driving up the wrong road.
I guess you got to take some sort of a stand to feel good and this is the battle a lot of you chose to fight. Do what makes you happy but it most likely isn't going to make any difference except make it a little not more difficult for guys that are already having a difficult time.
As far as selling the experience,...believe me, everyone of the charterboats tries very hard to sell the experience each and every trip . Those that don't are not in business for long. If you do multi species charters such as cod , tuna and shark you need an offshore boat. I larger boat. These charterboats are not comparable to skiffs and inshore boats and thus do not offer the same experience as inshore flyfishing with one or two clients nor do our customers want that same experience.
Some of the comparisons to tarpon fishing in the Florida Keys are silly.
I'm not even sure if you can eat Tarpon if you wanted to.
Anyways buddy, I guess I'll just watch this play out and we will deal with it like any other regulation that hurts business. And we have been handed a lot of those.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by buckman

Charter boats are not the problem Scott…
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agreed(not the "only" problem as all user groups are "the" problem), they are, or can be, part of the solution....there is only 1 thing being voted on toight re:striped bass and that's option #1 vs option#2...there are plenty of problems, this just happens to be the one being addressed currently and charter boats(or their clients) are the only user group lobbying for an exception

[Dick Durand]

Just read a commentary in today's ProJo oped entitled "SOS for Striped Bass in RI" by Charlie Gregory. The article supports one fish at 28" for all recreational fishermen, and explains why in layman terms. Good to see a favorable comment in the press for the general public.
Thanks, Charlie.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by buckman

Charter boats are not the problem Scott… You guys are driving up the wrong road.
I guess you got to take some sort of a stand to feel good and this is the battle a lot of you chose to fight. Do what makes you happy but it most likely isn't going to make any difference except make it a little not more difficult for guys that are already having a difficult time.
As far as selling the experience,...believe me, everyone of the charterboats tries very hard to sell the experience each and every trip . Those that don't are not in business for long. If you do multi species charters such as cod , tuna and shark you need an offshore boat. I larger boat. These charterboats are not comparable to skiffs and inshore boats and thus do not offer the same experience as inshore flyfishing with one or two clients nor do our customers want that same experience.
Some of the comparisons to tarpon fishing in the Florida Keys are silly.
I'm not even sure if you can eat Tarpon if you wanted to.
Anyways buddy, I guess I'll just watch this play out and we will deal with it like any other regulation that hurts business. And we have been handed a lot of those.
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Curious as to how bad it's going to have to be before you change your stance?
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