Chafee

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Graham looses this time - he is not much better than Chafee



Walker is on my limited shortlist

And while I agree that not all of them are rock stars (I love Ben Carson and Bobby Jindal, but they just don't have much gravitas), every single one of them, would be a million times better than Hilary.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

And while I agree that not all of them are rock stars (I love Ben Carson and Bobby Jindal, but they just don't have much gravitas), every single one of them, would be a million times better than Hilary.

gravitas=dignity, seriousness, or solemnity of manner

Ben Carson may have more "gravitas" than all the rest of them in either party. I've never liked the word as has been applied by the progressive press to politicians. I'm not totally sure of what they mean be it, except that, maybe, progressivism infuses "gravitas" into a politician more, if at all, than "conservatism."

I think the greatest obstacle Carson has is his total lack of experience as a politician. Which, for me, is a plus. If you read the constitutional "qualifications" for President, there is no mention of political experience. That was not an accidental omission. Political entrenchment of the brain creates a different breed of citizen. It separates the "politician" from the "people."

[Nebe]

im sticking to my bernie sanders prediction.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Nebe

im sticking to my bernie sanders prediction.

Then you would have the two worst Presidents in history back to back.

Sanders would be a disaster, as would Rand Paul I think. Thought I like some of Paul's stuff he would be a disaster. We cannot have another disastrous foreign policy president.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Then you would have the two worst Presidents in history back to back.

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[Nebe]

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[justplugit]

Unfortunately too many people vote for the gravitas of a candidate. It should mean nothing because it has nothing to do with the qualification of leading.
First test should be character and patriotism imho. Lincoln certainly didn't have gravitas but he had the character and patriotism to do what was best for the country.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

gravitas=dignity, seriousness, or solemnity of manner

Ben Carson may have more "gravitas" than all the rest of them in either party. I've never liked the word as has been applied by the progressive press to politicians. I'm not totally sure of what they mean be it, except that, maybe, progressivism infuses "gravitas" into a politician more, if at all, than "conservatism."

I think the greatest obstacle Carson has is his total lack of experience as a politician. Which, for me, is a plus. If you read the constitutional "qualifications" for President, there is no mention of political experience. That was not an accidental omission. Political entrenchment of the brain creates a different breed of citizen. It separates the "politician" from the "people."

By "gravitas", I was referring more to the "cool factor", which means nohting to any serious person, but unfortunately is important in these elections.

I also like Carson's lack of political experience, there's a LOT to be said for someone who is not a carer politician. I love Carson, but I expect he will bow out early. I notice that the left, for all their claims of caring about blacks, aren't exactly gushing all over him.

i think Jindal would be excellent, I think Walker would be excellent, Rubio is a great VP candidate...