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Old 08-20-2015, 09:35 AM   #18
detbuch
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Slavery is legal Jim. It's just done very stealthy. It's called wage stagnation with inflated living costs.
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So, as opposed to "conservative thinking" in which words in a legal sense (the sense Jim was using with the word slavery) have black and white definitions, you prefer the "more liberal way of thinking" and use the word slavery in a "what if" sense--what if slavery is anything that puts a stress or discomfort or economic pressure on someone.

Or, rather than just using the word in a "more" liberal way, Why not totally separate from "conservative thinking" and be the ultimate "liberal" (in terms of how you once defined the distinction) and be "creative" rather than dogmatic and use words, such as slavery, in a poetic or metaphorical sense. Why not go whole hog and say that the word can mean whatever you want it to mean?

That is, after all, how we have "progressed" from what progressives considered a dogmatic, black and white, constitutional form of government into the ultimate "liberal" fiat-to-suit-the-moment form of rule. By "free" and creative "what if" interpretation of the words in the Constitution it was, and is, used as a pretense of legality (actually removing the "conservative" black and white from legality and making it more liberal) to hide what was and is actually a "creative" rewriting of the document.

Ironically, "conservatives," using liberal linguistics would say that this liberally created system of government is slavery. And they would have a stronger case that it is than the what if slavery is whatever you want it to be argument that you used here. We are not legally bound to wage stagflation and inflated living costs. We are not under the threat of fines, imprisonment, or death if we, as many do, find ways to cope with or transcend that condition. But those who transgress the abundant and arbitrary fiat rules of so-called "liberal" government can be subjected to slavish punishment.

Ironically, again, constitutionalism limited the ability of government to "enslave" us and provided means, by consent of the people, to remove despotic rules. Progressivism, on the other hand expands the ability of the government to enslave us. Even to the point of the unlimited ability to do so.

And, ironically again, the wage stagflation and inflated living costs are not a result of "conservative" free market forces, but are brought about by "liberal" manipulation and progressive control of the market. Free market forces would not sustain inflated living costs without rising wages. The only way such a condition can be maintained is by government control and manipulation. Government control and manipulation of the market is not constitutional "conservative thinking." It is the essence of progressive thought.

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